Not all men

[AskBasil]

Interesting article here

which recent terrorism?

do you mean the elderly man stabbed on his way home from friday prayers?

do you mean racist graffiti on mosques?

did you mean tombstones with arabic on them defaced?

do these count? they are certainly meant to terrorise
you seem to think you are making some kind of point, but you are talking absolute bullshit. and harmful bullshit, at that.

There is another thread going on that has become totally derailed by this argument.

Someone posted quite early on something about men getting weirder and a man spent the next 3 days centring the thread on himself. He should be allowed to discuss it. He can emphasis with the terror that wakes a 12 year old girl in the night because he knows women. He is allowed to be offended etc. Not all men...

All of these things may be true (apart from the knowing women is the same as being a woman) but making it all about him, his feelings, his experiences etc is ridiculous.

most terrorism in the uk, by any definition of recent is not committed by muslims

it is most definitely hate speech to pretend it is, as the only reason you'd make up shit like that is to stir up hatred

seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you? gypsies? bloody hell.

Kim, there is no association at all between Muslims as a group and terrorism. There is an association between men as a group and all forms of violence including terrorism.

If you are asking for men and Muslims to be talked about in the same way, you are asking us to deny what men as a class do or make up hateful and untrue links that Muslims are disproportionately involved in terrorism.

can you not see how 'most terrorism is carried out by muslims' is false and also stirs up hatred?

must be fun to post all these thought experiments about stereotypes, knowing they'll never bite you on the ass

I've never heard of a rule that one can only make class analyses of structurally privileged groups. Any source for that, Buffy?

Do feminists on this thread only know a handful of nice men?

Again, it is about context. It really does not matter if someone says muslims are terrorists or some muslims are terrorists, both are equally racist comments if made with no context or within a wider racist statement.

It's not a challenge, just that it seems like arbitrary, spurious rule. There doesn't seem to be any inherent problem in making a class analysis of an oppressed group, and you seemed to think there was. Just wondered why.