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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Fed up with women being described as "girls". Name and shame the worst culprits.

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MardyBra · 26/10/2013 01:50

Nick from The Apprentice for starters.

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MardyBra · 26/10/2013 01:54

The X Factor talks about "girls" and "boys" for the under 25s, so not too bad, I suppose. Although I wouldn't rate them as as a hive of feminism.

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MrsCakesPremonition · 26/10/2013 01:54

Boots advertising.

Yougotbale · 26/10/2013 01:55

Jamie oliver

MardyBra · 26/10/2013 01:55

Absolutely MrsCakes

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MardyBra · 26/10/2013 01:57

Lots of quizmasters. Bradley on The Chase. Chris Tarrant.

I would love a contestant to turn on them.

[apologies - quiz show freak!]

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FarelyKnuts · 26/10/2013 01:58

My female boss!! Hacks me off no end!

MardyBra · 26/10/2013 01:59

Also the bloke who runs my choir.

He never refers to the basses and tenors as "boys".

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MardyBra · 26/10/2013 02:14

Maybe I should confront him, but I feel that would brand me as mardybitch.

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HumpdaySelfie · 26/10/2013 02:18

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zippey · 26/10/2013 02:32

I don't care about women being called girls. Its not something you should worry about.

perplexedpirate · 26/10/2013 03:23

Whenever I see this I always hear Margi Clark going 'Isn't that right, giiiiirrrllls?!'.
In my head, obviously. She doesn't follow me around or anything.

DropYourSword · 26/10/2013 03:28

I guess it depends. If someone said "girls" and "boys" it wouldn't be an issue to me. However if it was "girls" and "men" I'd be fuming!

MardyBra · 26/10/2013 03:29

"I don't care about women being called girls. Its not something you should worry about."

So men are rarely referred to as "boys". Yet adult women are referred to as children. if you can tell me that men are equally infantalised, then it wouldn't be a problem for me.

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StopDoingThat · 26/10/2013 03:40

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MardyBra · 26/10/2013 03:40

"If someone said "girls" and "boys" it wouldn't be an issue to me."

What about "girls" and "guys", which I've heard a lot recently?
What about "guys" meaning men and women?

I am genuinely curious about the best terms. My main concern is that young women (including dd in a couple of years' time) aren't dismissed as non adults.

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ZingWantsCake · 26/10/2013 03:52

doesn't bother me at all. to quote Alanis Morisette:

"I'm a bitch I'm a lover
I'm a child I'm a mother
I'm a sinner I'm a saint
I do not feel ashamed"

and I'm a girl too. so I'm ok with it.

ZingWantsCake · 26/10/2013 03:53

stop

how about "Laydeez"? Grin

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verysomething · 26/10/2013 03:56

stop in Australia 'guys' has become v accepted for a mixed group. I like it for social things but would not use it for work groups unless I was sure everyone else was on board with it.

ZingWantsCake · 26/10/2013 03:59

biatches?

DropYourSword · 26/10/2013 04:07

I live in Australia and I will often use guys as a term for a group of people, regardless of gender.

verysomething · 26/10/2013 04:19

I often use "folks" Blush

it's not perfect but it works for group emails in my guardianista workplace

In a fit of post-modern irony I tried out 'chaps' once. It was not a success.

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