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Dildos & Vibrators

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kickassangel · 06/02/2013 00:56

OK - so in my class about Fraternity & Freemasons last night we ended up with the teacher telling us how the clitoris is the only part of a woman's body that has the nerve endings which will bring about an orgasm. That the vagina doesn't have the right amount of nerves. (Believe me, it made perfect sense for this to happen in a lecture on the history of 1800s freemasons.)

Anyway - my thought was - I get why penetrative sex exists, but WHY do sex shops sell dildos & vibrators?

I've never actually seen either in rl (yes, honestly), so maybe I'm missing something, but wouldn't it make more sense for there to be sex toys that stimulate the clitoris, not the vagina?

And yes, the obvious answer is that we're meant to need a man & his penis, so that's what we get sold.

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TheDoctrineOfSciAndNatureClub · 08/02/2013 22:31

That's a brilliant riposte!

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AnyFucker · 09/02/2013 00:44

I can orgasm from nipple stim. Just wanted to put that out there. It is not a fallacy.

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BIWI · 09/02/2013 00:55

There are also other erogenous zones that can induce orgasm as well.

It's always an interesting experience for me if I have a facial or full body massage (an entirely 'above board' one!)

No touching of genitals at all, or nipples.

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AnyFucker · 09/02/2013 00:57

Erm, yes

< shuts up >

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BIWI · 09/02/2013 01:07

Grin

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SaggyOldClothCatpuss · 09/02/2013 01:12

Personally, orgasm purely from clitoral stimulation is just nice. Only ever orgasming this way would be a bit 'meh'!
It's always good, but PIV orgasms for me are earth shattering, multipled and almost overwhelming.
I think your lecturer has a lot to learn!

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piprabbit · 09/02/2013 01:17

Given that I've occassionally woken up from a rude dream to find myself in the middle of an orgasm (untouched by human hand, so to speak), I think the lecturer was talking out of their arse.

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CuriousMama · 09/02/2013 01:22

Lovehoney are very discreet. But still I was Blush at the postman when he handed me the large box the other day. He didn't know what was in it, but I did Grin

Oh and I feel it inside too.

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CuriousMama · 09/02/2013 01:26

Darkesteyes my exdh was like your dh. Nice guy but not into sex. I'm much happier now with dp but I know leaving isn't for everyone. I hope you find some joy in your sex life though as it's so very lonely.

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FreyaSnow · 09/02/2013 11:53

People who are having orgasms from nipple stimulation or all over body massage, where do you feel the orgasm? Is it an internal pelvic muscle contraction?

I wasn't trying to make out that all orgasms are clitoral by the way; I was just pointing out that as clitoral material surrounds the bottom part of the vagina, the clitoris is stimulated by penetration of the vagina.

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AnyFucker · 09/02/2013 12:20

Freya, a "general" kind of feeling, so I guess erm, I dunno Smile

Does it matter ? Grin

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Himalaya · 09/02/2013 19:12

I've always thought those vibrators that look like big veiny plastic cocks are a bit over literal.

They seem like the idea of a vibrator that a bloke would design, rather than something a woman would design to get the job done Grin

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MechanicalTheatre · 09/02/2013 19:22

Himalaya I have always thought the same. They are unnecessary.

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MechanicalTheatre · 09/02/2013 19:22

I wonder who invented the Rabbit. That seems like a woman might have made it!

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CuriousMama · 09/02/2013 20:22

I don't like the rabbit at all. I got the super duper deluxe one years ago, hated it.

I think a lot of orgasmic feelings start in the mind anyway. Women can get turned on visually too, it used to be thought that only men did.

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chosenone · 09/02/2013 20:34

love a rabbit, bullet not enough. What about those god awful corn on the cob ones Confused

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Darkesteyes · 09/02/2013 20:53

Thanks Curious. X Its just finding someone i can trust. Thats the hard part. Im sorry to hear you have been through the same thing.
I never fail to be shocked and appalled by the number of women who are being put (or who have been) put through this.

On a lighter note i may go into our little local adult shop and treat myself during the week. A Valentines Day treat for myself perhaps.

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CuriousMama · 09/02/2013 20:57

Yes you do that Darkesteyes.

My ex would always promise to make an effort. I waited and waited. Makes you feel like a predator in the end.

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Darkesteyes · 09/02/2013 21:07

When i had my affair and he first found out he muttered the word bitch under his breath.
My own DM said i was acting like a whore.
I can cope most of the time but the past few months have been hard. I asked him to go to counselling and he refused. I asked him whether we were ever going to be intimate again and he just said "i dont know"
My sexual feelings towards him now are dead because its been 17 yrs. We are more like friends.
He has now been partially disabled for the last seven yrs. Hes almost 63 and im 40 this year.
Everything just seems completely insurmountable.

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Darkesteyes · 09/02/2013 21:09

Sorry I asked him to go to counselling ten yrs ago before the affair and he refused. I didnt make that too clear in my last post.

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CuriousMama · 09/02/2013 21:10

Do you have dcs together Darkesteyes? Are you afraid to leave or don't you want to? I was with my exdh 17 years too. Also an age gap but only 12 years with us. There's 13 with dp and I and he is rampant so nothing to do with age. I think it's just the way they are?

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CuriousMama · 09/02/2013 21:10

Oh I tried the counselling, exdh said we didn't need it Hmm

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NigellasGuest · 09/02/2013 21:19

i have climaxed several times in my sleep!
Is that usual?

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Badvoc · 09/02/2013 21:29

I have ever had 1 PIV orgasm and it was unbelievable.
And I have climaxed in my sleep too! Very odd...

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Darkesteyes · 09/02/2013 21:34

I guess im just afraid. I dont think its anything to do with age either Curious. There are plenty of older men who still make love to their wives. I too believe its the way they are.
They also tend to think that because they dont want you no one else will.
I also had a Catholic upbringing (have completely rejected that religion for the past 21 yrs) but i have very mysogynistic parents.
Some times it feels so suffocating. Sometimes i just want to pack a bag and run. I can so understand why some people choose to go "missing" and not want to be found.

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