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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Chat thread - come chat, rant, or celebrate, here!

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 23/01/2013 22:48

With thanks to the lovely timetosmile - here's the new and rejuvenated Chat Thread.

Space to yak on, rant, post any of the good and bad stuff ... just basically any chat that you don't feel fits into a specific post. With a side order of reclaiming the word 'gossip'.

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HairyHandedTrucker · 19/03/2013 18:46

anyone fancy taking things further afield tonight? cough cough pasword Gloria.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 19/03/2013 22:37

Err, what? It's very sensible to be scared of rats, since they bite and they carry disease.

It's less sensible to be scared of mythical creatures.

UptoapointLordCopper · 20/03/2013 07:59

I also said that women face a lot of dragons that most men never have to. Hate condescending tone. And I don't even know him. Grin

Trills · 20/03/2013 08:05

majoreggie I do like Robert Crampton.

He may be missing a few points in his moral instruction though - there is definitely a subset of men who think that they think that rape is an abomination, but conveniently don't class the sort of things they are their friends do as rape>

Trills · 20/03/2013 08:06

This is what happens when I type before coffee - I tell my fingers "and" and they write "are" because it's a word of the same length beginning in a. Blush

LRDtheFeministDragon · 20/03/2013 09:03

I agree with you (and oh if I only made typos like that pre-coffee).

Brew
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UptoapointLordCopper · 20/03/2013 13:54

Just saw this Hedy Lamarr a co-inventor of frequency-hopping. Another female inventor you don't hear about. Or maybe I'm ignorant.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 20/03/2013 17:03

Blimey, no, I've heard of her as an actress!

UptoapointLordCopper · 20/03/2013 18:10

"Lamarr wanted to join the National Inventors Council, but was reportedly told by NIC member Charles F. Kettering and others that she could better help the war effort by using her celebrity status to sell War Bonds."

Could she not have done both!? A woman with brains like that.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 21/03/2013 22:05

I saw a Tree Fu Tom episode that passed the Bechdel Test

Trills · 22/03/2013 08:15

I do make regular typos as well, but it's the "replace with another actual word" ones that are most interesting -- it's like my fingers have a set of "known patterns" and just do one set instead of the other.

Yes I've only heard of Hedy Lamarr as an actress

EduCated · 25/03/2013 18:56

Have you seen the #safetytipsforladies hash tag knocking about on Twitter at the moment? Brilliant but awful all in one.

UptoapointLordCopper · 25/03/2013 20:56

I've never been on Twitter. Not sure I dare to...

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 25/03/2013 21:48

There's a good twitter feminist spread sheet somewhere. LordC

UptoapointLordCopper · 26/03/2013 19:50

A spread sheet!? My worst nightmare. Grin

StickEmUp · 26/03/2013 20:21

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DaffodilAdams · 26/03/2013 20:30

Oh they are loons Grin.

Can I just put down in black and white that my boss is a bully and a misogynist? Not in an overt way either in an abusive, gaslighting, sidelining way where he just has to dismiss your technical input or not even ask for it when appropriate. But of course it is all reasonable. Each individual incident is reasonable. Except of course the rewriting of history and meeting outcomes. That's not so reasonable. Or the fact that every woman in the office has felt bullied by him. Or that each individual incident has shaped into a pattern now. He is an incompetent fool.

There, feel better now

UptoapointLordCopper · 26/03/2013 21:12

Daffodil - can you record all these and take it higher?

EduCated · 26/03/2013 21:13

That's really shit Sad Angry

Just to counter, I'm in a new relationship Blush But the more time I s

EduCated · 26/03/2013 21:15

Oh for fecks sake.

The more time I spend with him, the more I look back and see the red flags in my previous relationship. He is kind, funny and I feel truly, truly respected by him. Unlike my ex who told me he thought it was fine to be a dick to me because he was jealous of me then had a tantrum because I hadn't shaved my legs for a few days Hmm Angry

DaffodilAdams · 26/03/2013 21:43

I am keeping everything. Thankfully he is a disorganised misogynist. I put in a complaint to HR about 18 months ago which basically fizzled out because I went on maternity leave. He wasn't my boss at the time and he offered another job to a member of my team without even discussing with me and explicitly told him not to talk to me about it.

One of many things. Really there are just loads of things. HR have so far kept bouncing it back saying it is an internal department problem and to confront him etc etc. easier said than done when he is a bully. He isolated my team member and made it impossible for me to confront him without exposing the fact that my team member had spoken to me, which would have got him into trouble with said manager. Next time I complain I will have all the evidence lined up, all the i's dotted and the t's crossed. I will have already had the meetings with him about things I am unhappy with and I will see it through. The problem is there are so many things that I could complain about, where do you stop? I could end up looking like a bloody stalker or something (or a bully myself, because as we know abusive people are very good at turning the tables).

And the way he talks about his wife Sad.

Educated it is a breath of fresh air isn't it after you have been in an abusive relationship. I remember thinking with my partner how lovely it was he wanted to hear about my day. And how he put himself out to help me.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 26/03/2013 23:53

Here you go LordCopper.. Twitter feminists by interest area

docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&key=0AnBu5Vrdr86gdHRUVE12eWE1dER4NndrM2xMRDliUUE&output=html

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 27/03/2013 00:02
EduCated · 27/03/2013 07:41

It really is, and I wouldn't even go so far as to say I was in an abusive relationship, but I think it was a narrow escape and I got out at the right time. Everything sounds much worse when it's written down. But then maybe that's just because when its written down I can't minimise it? Sad

I always remember tickling him the one day and he stamped on my foot in retaliation. Was so shocked that he couldn't see why that was wrong or why I was upset by it and just kept laughing and telling me I was overreacting Angry

UptoapointLordCopper · 27/03/2013 07:59

Daffodil - are there any anti-harassment regulations you can throw at HR? Not the boss, since he probably doesn't understand, but HR is supposed to know such things. (Hollow laughter.) Sorry I can't help. I'm only going on the work diversity and equality training thing in a few months - due to being part-time and not having a session that fits in my time! It's a bit funny. But it was never very high on my agenda, perhaps wrongly. I sometimes feel I'm quite diverse enough myself. Wink

And thanks Doctrine!

EduCated - good to hear about good new relationship!