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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

'Let Toys Be Toys' Organising Thread - Part 2

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OneHandWavingFree · 02/12/2012 12:43

"Let Toys Be Toys - For Girls, and Boys" is a campaign started by a group of Mumsnetters, to convince retailers to categorise their toys by theme or function, rather than gender.

We're inviting everyone to 'like' us on Facebook, follow us on Twitter (@LetToysBeToys) and join us right here for discussion and collaborative decision-making about the next steps of our campaign.

Himalaya has been hard at work compiling the information gathered by our fantastic LTBT Mystery Shoppers, and we will be agreeing right here how the surveys will be ranked, which retailers we will be targetting with our message, and how we will go about it.

If you think that girls and boys should feel free to play with whatever toys that interest them most, and that they shouldn't walk into a toy store and feel pressurised to conform into archaic gender roles and stifling stereotypes, please join in the discussion!

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TheJoyfulChristmasJumper · 04/12/2012 22:35

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MurderOfGoths · 04/12/2012 22:37

In response to "why don't you want girls to have pink stuff?" you could always go with, we are happy for them to, we just want boys to be allowed to play with it too.

ashesgirl · 04/12/2012 22:40

Absolutely Smile

Only4theOlympics · 04/12/2012 22:43

I have shared. The great thing is that the majority of the likers are childless. So that is that argument for toy segregation screwed!

GeekLove · 04/12/2012 22:44

Signed and tweeted.

Himalaya · 04/12/2012 23:34

Some early results from the survey (but we still need more filled in please!)

Sainsburys comes at well
Argos website good, catalogue not so good

Not good are
TK Maxx
Wilkinsons
The Entertainer
Asda
Marks and Spencers

Boots, TK Maxx and M&S have their toys almost completely divided.

Wilkinsons, Boots, TK Maxx, Debenhams and the Entertainer all have big signs up, the other use a combination of colour coding and clustering

Of all the stores we have visited so far only 10% don't divide toys up by gender. 50% use signs.

If you are looking for a chemistry set in the stores we visited 2 out of 3 times you would have to go to the boys section.

A play kitchen is in girls in 75% of stores
Toolkit in boys 75% of the time
Construction in boys 75% of the time
Cleaning equipment in girsl 75% of the time

aufaniae · 05/12/2012 00:13

"I've had a reply from MNHQ after reporting earlier and querying whether it was ok to mention Mumsnet in connection with the campaign. The email I've had simply says:

Hi there,

Thanks for flagging - we're sure it's fine.

Best, Catherine MNHQ"

Have we had anything else from them? Did they ever get back to us to chat about what being an official campaign involves?

aufaniae · 05/12/2012 00:17

Himalaya great to see some results already :)

I'll set some time aside to do some websites this week. Having trouble walking any distance at the moment (pregnancy-related) so shops are pretty much out for now at least!

ConsiderCasey · 05/12/2012 07:31

whoop whoop! They've just announced it on BBC Brekkie! Go Newsworthy Go Newsworthy ...[fsmile!

ashesgirl · 05/12/2012 07:34

Watching too! Grin

Interesting results on surveys btw

ConsiderCasey · 05/12/2012 07:43

That guy is not sounding very articulate at all!

RikersBeard · 05/12/2012 07:47

Well done!!

LadyKinbote · 05/12/2012 07:47

Well done newsworthy ! Got our point across and the whole section seemed supportive. Smile

WomanlyWoman · 05/12/2012 07:49

Point was well gotten across- well done Maya Thanks

WomanlyWoman · 05/12/2012 07:53

ok haters starting on fb - policy - remove trolls - leave them to show selves up or ignore them?!

LadyKinbote · 05/12/2012 07:55

My instinct is to ignore unless it's overly unpleasant. The rest of us should make positive comments though to balance it out!

Pilgit · 05/12/2012 08:04

count me in! Chap on BBC wasn't very articulate but he did state that girls need to play with spatial toys to develop spatial awareness - which is vital for sciences.

TheJoyfulChristmasJumper · 05/12/2012 08:14

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ConsiderCasey · 05/12/2012 08:24

Haters already?! We must be doing well!! Just ignore I reckon!

Would be a good idea to get in touch with the psychologist on BBC Breakfast and continue dialogue with him. He seemed to be on board with certain aspects - ie. the belief that boys/girls not playing with certain toys does affect their development.

TheJoyfulChristmasJumper · 05/12/2012 08:35

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Afrodizzywonders · 05/12/2012 08:57

Have to laugh, 2 guys moaning the campaign is a waste of their time on Facebook because they watched it on tv, and then they waste more of their time telling us about it on Facebook.....he he he brilliant.

Deep down, as 2 year old boys they really did want to make play doh cakes and it's eating at their subconscious....let go!

ashesgirl · 05/12/2012 09:05

Controversy is good Grin

TheJoyfulChristmasJumper · 05/12/2012 09:06

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ashesgirl · 05/12/2012 09:14

Well it gets people talking and makes others notice the page. Smile

Newsworthy · 05/12/2012 10:32

Well that was fun! (And a bit nerve wracking)
Hope I did ok. The producer said not to say MN, which I think is right, if nothing else because it avoids HQ having to field any enquiries we might get.

Paul Irwing (the academic) said in the green room that he didn't disagree with the campaign at all. I asked him if he might contribute some content (a couple hundred words) on his perspective, which we could use. He seemed up for that.

I could go back to him and suggest a short Q&A if we come up with 5 or so questions and send them by email?

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