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pole dancing for fitness

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hairyqueenofscots · 19/11/2012 09:36

in my work i work with very highly qualified academics, i am support staff. they have all recently started these classes and burlesque. I have recently got very interested in the feminism on MN. I am saddened these woman are doing this ,they have everything going for them! Am i wrong? be gentle i am a learner :)

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LadyOfTheSith · 03/06/2022 21:31

Beautiful artform*.

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EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 03/06/2022 21:44

It can be remarkable as a sport and the elite in the sport are strong and fit.

World Pole Sports Championship 2019 - Parapole PPD4- Andrew Gregory - Great Britain

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penpalgal · 04/06/2022 11:51

I used to do Burlesque but was never really sold on the idea of it being 'empowering', I just used to like going to dance classes for fitness and also like performing on stage, so saw it as a bit of fun and another string to my bow. It was all a bit naff really, and I'm going to be brutally honest about myself and say I thought it would make me sound sexier to men. From what I saw of it some of the women going were young like me and thinking it would make them a coolgirl, others were wanting to reconnect with sexiness after having a baby/putting on weight/getting older etc and wanted to feel more confident and have a touch of glamour in their lives away from drudgery, as well as it being a way to make new friends. In that sense it felt fairly harmless, but yes, if a bloke found out I was doing burlesque classes they'd immediately say 'do some burlesque for us then' [boak] and that's all they'd want to talk about in the following conversation. I can see how pole involves acrobatic skills and would be a good workout, but I find it really depressing due to the young women I know who do this, who seem to be doing it for the same reasons I did burlesque. Middle class girls with low self-esteem and self-respect wanting to appear edgy and rebellious by dipping their toes in the water of 'sex work' in the safest way possible whilst inadvertently reinforcing the idea that women are just objects to be bought and sold, but never feeling the brunt of it because they're socially and economically protected. These are well-educated women in their twenties. Not saying all people doing pole fitness are like this, but it exists.

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VoleClock · 04/06/2022 13:03

Those videos are amazing, thank you, Hadro. He is seriously strong and agile. While I can see that the two women in the other video are also fit and agile, I find female gymnastics and similar activities less interesting to watch than men because of the leg pointing, hand waving and weirdly over arched back which always seem to be a part of it. Somehow the women always look as if they are saying 'please like me' while the men are saying 'look what i can do'. Or perhaps it is just my ingrained mysogeny....

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