Sexism in James Bond

[Frans1980]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19812608

I never really thought of it but the article really opened my eyes. I wonder how many young boys see James Bond as a role model??

TheDoctrineOfSnatch

Sorry, my internets broke and I lost 9/10 of my post.

I'm sure DSK doesn't hate his wife. I'm sure he sees the various other women that he has abused, as "other" and he doesn't care about the damage he does to them.That is a misogynistic way to behave which involves acts of hatred against women, women who I suspect DSK considers to be his social inferiors as well as his gender inferiors.

I don't think we can easily look at one example - particularly such a high-profile example - and either use it as an exemplar or achieve any real understanding of behaviour from it. Not that I wouldn't be fascinated to read a psychologist's report of him.

I suspect that he is a narcissist, much like most major politicians. If he is, then I wouldn't class his behaviour as misogyny because he treats everyone like that, not just women. Yes, he has sex with lots of women, but he also treats men just as badly. That doesn't make him a misogynist, it makes him a narcissist.

I suspect that the case of systematic, state-supported (if not mandated) rape (such as the Soviet armies, and more recently in the African wars) is a very different thing to the sort of behaviour we see from people like DSK.

FPH, I don't think your minimising of the impact of rape on women helps advance discussion

and just in case you didn't realise (although I am sure everyone else did) my "sneering" was aimed at your attempts to excuse men's rape of women, not war

The book quotes soldiers as saying how surprised they were that German people looked like them, because all their propaganda had told them that the Germans were animals.

What do you think they were expecting, dya'reckon?

Hamsters...?

flatpackhamster - have you name-changed? Your posting style is awfully familiar.

No, never.

OK. I believe you.

Does DSK hit, punch, kick or otherwise assault other men? I don't understand how you can draw the conclusion that he treats everyone the same.

Ok let's turn the question round. What behaviour would you accept was evidence of misogyny?

FPH is otherwise known as Edd

IMO

report me, someone

Is he definitely not uppercut, then?

no, it's Edd

IMO

any twat will do though, tbh

the particulars are not that important

True.

I'm just enjoying laughing at him, whoever he is.

me too

his mate (BDD) got a trouncing (banned) from HQ, it won't be too long until this one does too

he's just a tiny bit cleverer (in knowing how to stay just this side of deletion), but they trip themselves up sooner rather than later, I find

Well before they trip themselves up, they show themselves to be arses by anyone able to read, so win-win either way, really.

The thread has moved on a little from Bond, however, I read the Bond books a few years ago and if you think the films are sexist, they are nothing compared to the books.

The novel, The Spy Who Loved Me is nothing like the film, the film makers just used the title. The entire premise is awful but what sticks in my mind is the line 'all women like semi-rape'. Horrifying.

well, you would think so, were

I thought goading was now a deletable offence. Was I wrong ?

yeah, like coool

too true

them ManTrunks don't make up for any of it