Radical feminism and PIV

[EatsBrainsAndLeaves]

Hi just wanted to ask radical feminists and their allies their views of piv sex, I have no one I can ask in RL about this.

I can understand why PIV sex is inherently unsafe and that viewing PIV sex as the goal of sex is misogynous. But I really can't fathom the view that PIV sex is inherently abusive. Can anyone explain it very very basically? And do all radical feminists think PIV sex is inherently abusive?

Thanks

Vashti - because it feels nice. Just like some people kiss with tongues.

If someone putting their finger in my ear felt nice, I'd be very into that too.

Can we not have vaginal and clitoral pleasure? Not sure why it has to be one or the other.

I think you must be confusing me with somebody else, GAG, I never said it had to be one or the other.

I explore the inside of my ear and it feels nice - don't most people?

Good post, Vashti, I agree a lot.

"EatsBrains I just thought something about your OP. You asked the question do all radical feminists think PIV sex is inherently abusive?

I meant to ask you earlier and forgot - where did you get the idea that radical feminists in general may think that PIV is inherently abusive?"

Beach - Sorry only just come back to this thread. I haven't been on MN much this week. I got the idea from a few radical feminist blogs that I thought said PIV was inherently abusive.

Thanks for the links and suggested redaing material, I will have a look at that. Certainly the more nuanced position you outline makes much more sense. Thanks