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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sugar daddy parties - "It's almost an inspirational thing."

71 replies

fewcloudy · 25/10/2011 10:58

At least it is according to the last line of this article.

www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/15431565

Can't wait...

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MrsChemist · 25/10/2011 11:04

It really skirts around the subject of what the women are expected to do in these "arrangements"
Men provide money and gifts
Women provide...?

If it weren't stupidly seedy, it would be clearer.

Rollon2012 · 25/10/2011 11:11

I think what actually disturbs me the most is that most of these 'sugar daddies' will be soliciting girls young enough to be their daughters Shock

carpetmistress · 25/10/2011 11:31

if they want a sugar daddy, let them. Their choice

AMumInScotland · 25/10/2011 11:39

Its a Newsbeat article, so they are deliberately a bit vague about the "dates" that are being set up. But it's basically "sex for money" however they try to dress it up. Which is a complex issue, but definitely not "inspirational" whether or not you think its an acceptable trade.

lemonmuffin · 25/10/2011 11:58

Good grief. It's prostitution plain and simple.

PosiesOfPoison · 25/10/2011 15:09

Ergh.

colditz · 25/10/2011 15:17

Pimps, in other words.

KRITIQ · 25/10/2011 19:18

Inspirational isn't a word I would use to describe the phenomenon. I've never heard of Sugar Daddy parties, so it could be just a non story.

But, what it is describing is buying and selling women's sexual services, well buying and selling women. It's being dressed up though as fun, hip and wholesome in a "what's not to like?" sort of way.

Perhaps the idea is to make it the acceptable face of prostitution, a way to recruit more young women into the sex industry at a time when career options are rather limited. Just another example of women as a comodity.

madwomanintheattic · 25/10/2011 19:52

ach, it's all belle du jour balls to get through college, but made acceptable for the customer, not the prostitute. inspirational my arse. although i'm curious as to which particular 'level' monique is aspiring...

and i'm going to take alan schneider outside and fill him in, if that's ok with y'all.

ew.ew.ew.

clairefromsteps · 25/10/2011 19:54

Inspirational?

I think in the context this woman was talking, she actually meant 'aspirational' (she says she's looking to move to the next level...).

Makes my skin crawl a little bit, though. And whether you agree with prostitution or not, this is definitely it.

bemybebe · 25/10/2011 19:56

I find it disgusting. Why do these women aim so low?

JLK2 · 25/10/2011 21:08

It's not to my taste but they are all consenting adults.

garlicBreathZombie · 26/10/2011 00:26

Glad of your post re 'inspirational' = aspirational, Claire! The quote makes more sense now.

If it were to become an acceptable (if slightly barf-inducing) face of prostitution, I wouldn't like it but I would think it okay for them as wants it. But no face of prostitution remains acceptable for long, does it? Before you know it, there'll be hordes of Vankas and Jadvigas on the dance floor with their 'uncles' ringing them every fifteen minutes to make sure they're demanding enough money.

Joolyjoolyjoo · 26/10/2011 00:31

I posted on the other thread. It is depressing and sets us back 100s of years.

Is that really all young women want to "aspire" to these days? I worry for my daughters Sad

bemybebe · 26/10/2011 00:34

"Vankas and Jadvigas"

What was that about??

KRITIQ · 26/10/2011 11:10

I'm not sure who Vanka and Jadviga are either. But, I do find it worrying that there seems to be a "creeping acceptance" that women selling sex is just a lifestyle choice, a career choice and as benign as say waitressing, acting or being a shop assistant.

And, because it's being spun as a "choice," it makes it difficult for those who have gone into the sex industry to express how it has harmed them - the idea being that if you've made a choice to do something, whatever happens as a result is your own fault.

StewieGriffinsMom · 26/10/2011 11:12

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mrgreatness · 26/10/2011 12:38

well kritiq. I make the choice to cross the road, I may get hit by a car and it may be my fault for not looking properly. Some women make good and bad choices when it comes to sex

SinicalSal · 26/10/2011 13:42

yes. selling sex is a bad choice - its more than likely you'll be harmed, whatever the smiling rich guys twice your age say.

Like crossing the road at the green man is a GOOD choice, dashing across the motorway is a BAD choice. Conflating the two is dishonest.

StewieGriffinsMom · 26/10/2011 14:17

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garlicBreathZombie · 26/10/2011 14:28

I think Garlic was referring to the increase in trafficking for sexual exploitation of women from Eastern Europe. - Thanks, SGM.

Yes. If there's a fresh type of marketplace for men to buy female company and sex, I see it as inevitable that pimps will find a fresh way to sell their 'wares' within it. (What I meant about the uncle on the phone.)

Hope that clarifies.

strandednomore · 26/10/2011 14:34

I agree with you garlicbreath (I can't believe I am agreeing with someone called garlicbreath!) and understood what you mean. It's another way in for traffiickers.

Putrifyno · 26/10/2011 14:41

Well men and women have had sex/married in return for money and status since the dawn of time.....it's been around forever - a bit like Smallpox.

But in these more enlightened times, you would hope that educated women women would have more self respect. Sad

SinicalSal · 26/10/2011 14:45

Or that well off educated men would have more self respect. Who'd want to have sex with someone who quite likely despises you?

I mean sharing a canteen lunch break with someone who despises you is unpleasant enough. Imagine sharing sex with them. urrgh, why would you put yourself in that position?

KRITIQ · 26/10/2011 14:59

Wow, excellent busting of the free choice myth there. My hat's off to you! Grin