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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Help me to help my three year old realise that girls aren't shit!

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StarsAreShining · 05/10/2011 21:42

My son is almost four, and seems to have absorbed a lot of awful opinions and made them his own. This includes, but is not limited to, 'I don't like pink because it's for girls. I like blue',(despite having a few pink things and not noticing the colour before), 'I don't like girls. Boys are cool', 'Girls cry but boys are brave', etc etc etc.

I'm feeling really disappointed because I don't know how to deal with this. I feel like I've failed. There's just a general feeling of men being big, strong, brave, cool and doing all of the exciting stuff, while women are quiet, weak, cry and do a lot of cleaning. There's no way I want this to continue. We regularly talk about it and read books which promote equality, but it doesn't seem to sink in. I've tried, but it seems that the rest of the world has won :( I'm aware that his dad and grandad regularly say things like 'Ugh, grandad's a big girl!', and I've told him that I'm not happy with my sex being used as an insult, but I can't make him stop. We do talk about these things, and he'll happily talk about people being equal, but it doesn't seem to be sinking in.

What do I do?!?! I really struggle because I don't have any friends who share my opinions. I barely even know anybody with children, let alone children who aren't having certain behaviours pushed onto them or restricted because of their sex!

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slug · 18/10/2011 12:51

So women who are involved in large open source projects aren't "serious"?? Are you dismissing the whole Linux community which as a strong female menbership? What about women like myself who manage large data systems? Are we not worthy of the "serious" label either? What about all of these?

Get a grip Blitz. I have to agree with KRITIQ, you seem to have a very low opinion of women and their abilities.

giyadas · 18/10/2011 12:57

"if girls want to change the world they better grow up some balls.."
Grin says it all really.

BlitzMum · 18/10/2011 17:21

hahaha !

MEN ARE BETTER THAN WOMEN !

get a life !

i'm a MAN.

LeninGrad · 18/10/2011 17:22

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KRITIQ · 18/10/2011 17:23

Well, something that sadly quite a few men and women share is a loathing of women.

blackcurrants · 18/10/2011 19:18

heh, I was lurking on this thread thinking "is it half term?" and now I see that it probably is.

Well, it's easier knowing when you can conserve your efforts for those who are interested in real discussion.

giyadas · 18/10/2011 19:39

Always makes me laugh when they pretend to be women yet display such glaring male privilege, whilst denying their privilege exists. Grin
Extra points for the Big Reveal though, very dramatic.
Meanwhile the FS carries on regardless...

BertieBotts · 18/10/2011 19:58

Not interested in the bunfight, but OP, I really wouldn't worry about it. Your son is going to be repeating at a very base level what other children around him are saying at the moment. In short, it's a phase they go through, and while it might be socially constructed, unless you want to whisk him away to live in the mountains Wink it's just something that is out of our power to change, at least before your DS grows out of the age that it's related to. (For future generations, we can still hold hope!)

I think that what is more important is the role models he's picking up around him, and yes, his Dad might be a negative one in that sense, but you're providing him with a wonderful thing in an alternative view. I bet in a few years he will be completely different :)

BlitzMum · 19/10/2011 05:13

good or bad .. it's his father.
he certainly prefers to have a bad father rathen than being an orphan.

and by the way, are we sure the mother is so much better ? a hardcore feminist trying to dress his son in pink clothes and giving him dolls ? what's next ? the baby will rebel and he will get to hate his mama, no matter if the mama's doing all this for love.

just let you son behave as a man does.
and don't worry, life will teach him many lessons if he goes overboard, and there's no shortage of fellow kids willing to smack his face if he starts bullying around.

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