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In light of MNHQ's recent statement that the feminism section is in fact not a feminism section but a section 'about' feminism, perhaps we need to be warning people about this up front?

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Beachcomber · 22/09/2011 08:50

I'm of the opinion that it needs to made clear that whilst the title may be 'feminism/women's rights', this section is quite different to other boards that deal with feminism/women's rights.

It isn't fair to mislead - lots of posters expect the section to be a place where feminist views can be freely explored without fear of posters' mental health being questioned, and a zone where misogyny is unwelcome. In reality, pretty much anything goes here and whilst it is, of course, MNHQ's prerogative to run their site as they see fit, some sort of disclaimer about the section seems only fair in order to forewarn posters (especially posters looking for support or exploration of sensitive issues).

Perhaps it would be an idea for there to be a header at the top of the section stating MNHQ's position?

All suggestions welcomed Smile.

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Beachcomber · 27/09/2011 00:02

"LindsayWagner Mon 26-Sep-11 21:35:45

beachcomber - well, perfect example. To me, cockwaving = bullying in an environment where the bullier has unearned privilege.

To you = a ludicrous insult implying rad fems would like to have cocks."

It is so so tiresome to have to put up with this sort of thing.

I was just posting about how I'm really really sick of being insulted and called names because I have the temerity to explore feminist analysis in a section of MN entitled, "feminism and women's rights".

Leave me alone. You have no idea as to what I think. Your post is offensive.

Why do these people always have to get so personal?

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StayFrosty · 27/09/2011 00:05

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Beachcomber · 27/09/2011 00:06

I was just wondering does anyone know how Sakura is doing?

I hope she is posting somewhere nice what with having been stalked and insulted on MN. Haven't seen her for a while - I guess she got tired of being insulted and having her mental health questioned because she wanted to discuss feminism.

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AitchTwoOh · 27/09/2011 00:06

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS THAT THREAD?! i find that utterly shocking. Shock

LRDTheFeministDragon · 27/09/2011 00:10

It's what people on here have been talking about intermittently for the last few months, aitch, and maybe before - I'm not sure, being a relative newbie. There have been quite a lot of threads and references to off-board trolling and stalkerish behaviour. Sad

Prolesworth · 27/09/2011 00:10

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LRDTheFeministDragon · 27/09/2011 00:11
  • btw, when I say 'it', there's this site and at least two more I can think of that do similar things with quoting posters and writing about them and about trolling MN. HQ knows.
Mumcentreplus · 27/09/2011 00:15

Get this shit into perspective..pathetic ,sad and sometimes scary people voicing opinion ..once you realise that their strange and pitiful talk means nothing but a reflection of their own twisted and crazy beliefs it means nothing...just a blabbering,confused,subjective belief from a fragile mind...stop giving a fuck..please

Mumcentreplus · 27/09/2011 00:19

Trolls are just that..cave dwelling internet monsters...

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Beachcomber · 27/09/2011 00:20

Do you get it now Aitch?

We are objecting to the people like the people on that thread posting here and sucking regular MNers into their viciousness.

The ed is alright really and bob is hard done by brigade have done exactly that.

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AitchTwoOh · 27/09/2011 00:22

jeez, i am just so shocked that a bunch of men would have so much time on their hands, iykwim? i mean, we all yak about stuff on here, but there they are, yakking about a bunch of people for whom they purport to have zero respect but taking the time to deconstruct every thing they say. my mind is boggling.

LRDTheFeministDragon · 27/09/2011 00:24

They're not all men, aitch.

But yes, it is scary they take the time. It's not trivial. Or rather, it's trivial just as stalking in RL is 'trivial'. Until someone gets hurt by it. No matter how careful you are in RL or online, you cannot be 100% protected. Sorry, but you can't. All you can do is make it harder for them.

Mumcentreplus · 27/09/2011 00:27

Ha!...I'm never shocked by people who obviously don't have a fucking life talking on the tinternet...

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Beachcomber · 27/09/2011 00:28

You OK AF?

I know you are made of stern stuff but it really isn't nice is it?

Personally I don't give a shit what they post elsewhere - I just don't want them here.

Here where women should be able to talk to each other and help each other.

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AitchTwoOh · 27/09/2011 00:30

well i get it, but i think that if this is who you are dealing with then a message at the top of the board isn't going to deter them. can HQ delete fast enough, even if they are inclined to do so?

nightmare situ, of course. but like i say, i would rather you were all doing your stuff on the broader boards, personally. selfishly and personally. Grin

AnyFucker · 27/09/2011 00:32

I am fine, BC

Just reached my limit, this evening

Has been building for a while, tbh

Am not flouncing, honest. I will be around on the other boards as ever, just not this one. This one has the potential to do me more harm than good, atm.

LRDTheFeministDragon · 27/09/2011 00:33

aitch - don't we do our stuff on other boards? Confused

I have no memory for names so maybe people don't but I'm sure Dittany was a long-term reg in relationships.

Mumcentreplus · 27/09/2011 00:34

(might get bitch slapped) Grin

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Beachcomber · 27/09/2011 00:34

Ain't that the truth AnyFucker Sad Angry

I guess we just let it slide then Aitch? (no offence at you, am just weary of this).

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AnyFucker · 27/09/2011 00:35

Thanks for you, mcp Grin

Prolesworth · 27/09/2011 00:39

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AitchTwoOh · 27/09/2011 00:39

not as much as y'all used to, no.

i just agree with lindsaywagner that a few years ago i think it was a working assumption that the entire board was a feminist space where feminism and nice ham and boden knitwear and lidl top buys and mosaic-ing and chromosomal peculiarities and obnoxious bosses and best mascaras could all be discussed and critiqued from the feminist perspective. it made it really interesting. then it got super-interesting for those first heady weeks of the feminist board and then... well, it just went weird on us all. probably because of the trolls and tedious persistent derailers, but while the feminists were fighting a rearguard action against them to defend 'their' space, it meant they were missed on the other boards. by me. i'm not speaking for anyone else.

AitchTwoOh · 27/09/2011 00:41

well i for one love you, Prolesy, and always look out for your name, and can't hardly think of the last time i spotted you on a general thread. Grin i certainly would not set out to insult you.

Mumcentreplus · 27/09/2011 00:42

awwww......

AnyFucker · 27/09/2011 00:44

For the record, this board has done me a whole world of good

Until very recently Sad

Apart from the out'n'out weirdos whom I can easily laugh at (and frequently do), this board has been picked and picked away at, along with individual posters, which is way out of line

Some of it's best contributors have decided to distance themselves from it

Some of it's other best contributors are hanging on for grim death

I am in good company Smile

I don't want to be targeted. My professional life would not survive it. I will not risk that for anything. I seem unable to keep my big gob shut when it would be prudent to do so, hence best to remove myself.