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David beckham - "you have to be a lot more delicate with girls" - what a tool.

90 replies

Moulesfrites · 16/07/2011 07:48

link here,

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2015267/David-Beckham-reveals-reason-baby-Harper-Sevens-Harper-Lee.html

Eh? I thought being delicate was a good idea with all babies, because they're babies?

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DontCallMePeanut · 17/07/2011 01:34

I do find the suggestion that VB has read "To Kill A Mockingbird" somewhat amusing... Grin

But hey, it's the DM. They've probably twisted what he said about being "more delicate with girls" for their own misogynistic agenda.

FreudianSlipper · 17/07/2011 01:36

no not at all

you sell your whole life to the press, you inform the press of everything you do you lose your privacy, and the children have no choice in the matter. yes he is a world famous football player but that does not mean you have to sell your life to hello, make tv programmes about your home life and tweet about every little thing you are doing you are going to come in for some criticism too

BitOfFun · 17/07/2011 01:38

I can believe Victoria Beckham has read the book- most Year 8s manage just fine. I'm sure she is more intelligent than people give her credit for. A lot of the sniping is rather mean.

AwesomePan · 17/07/2011 01:39

DCMP - I have a sort of faith in the boy for him to not allow their girl to be named on a fraudulent whim.

DontCallMePeanut · 17/07/2011 01:42

AP, maybe... but then it was VB who said herself she'd never read a whole book.

AwesomePan · 17/07/2011 01:47

FS - I don't think DB has done all of the things you indicate he has. His life hasn't been a sort of Andre do dah thing and Jordan thingy at all. We know v. little about their sons, and rightly so. He doesn't need to court publicity at all. He has a very good agent who knows how to manage things for him whilst he stays fit to do his job.

I do like him in a few ways. Dislike his wife in a few others.

DontCallMePeanut · 17/07/2011 01:49

^Agree with AP.

AwesomePan · 17/07/2011 01:49

DCMP - I don't know if she did say that. And nor does anyone else it seems. A media production to fit a stereo-type? Maybe.

DontCallMePeanut · 17/07/2011 01:58

Good point. I'd have liked to have think she'd have corrected it, had she been misquoted on that, though.

StewieGriffinsMom · 17/07/2011 02:10

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AwesomePan · 17/07/2011 02:15

I have a vested interest in DB though. I saw him play for the reserves of Man U in the early 1990's, a rainy night in Bury. when he was 17. He was outstanding even then.

A couple of years later he was in a squad at Old Trafford when an opposing player had his leg broken in 2 places. Whilst recuperating in Manchester the only player who cam t osee him was Beckham. The player involved ( I think the goalie, by his own admission, thought he was just an autograph hunter! No-one asked him to do that.

So yes. DB is a bit special and I give him a load of leeway.

AwesomePan · 17/07/2011 02:29

And whilst I am on this roll of defending DB, even in the FS!..if anyone sat down with him for a minute, and explained how odd his comment was, I have no doubt he would take it on board.
I think he is 'pure of heart' and commited. Rare values in superstars.

So there.Grin

DontCallMePeanut · 17/07/2011 02:35

N'aww... I'm actually going to agree with you, AP... He doesn't seem like someone who'd be intentionally sexist. In fact, that comment about Beckham going to see the guy who had his leg broken made me "aww"... Grin

Ok, I'm converted to the DB camp...

FreudianSlipper · 17/07/2011 02:41

i have meet DB on quite a few occasions so ner :o

he is a nice guy, really he is not that smart, he is very talented and i will stand by what i say by giving so much of their life to the media they will come in for criticism, everything thing they do is tipped off to the media so you live like that you are in line for a lots of criticism but has never stopped either of them shying away from publicity so doubt they care that much

i think it is a shame he is always seen as mr niceguy and she a bitch, even when he cheated on her she he was still mr niceguy throughout it all

AwesomePan · 17/07/2011 02:43

it's true! And also, Beckham didn't even play in that game. He was an unused substitute. Being so young, and having the nous to go and see an opposing player at a time of crisis is remarkable. The player records it in his memoir, as seeing a small squeaky voiced boy who he had never seen before and being a bit suspicious of him.
And there are other charity/personal stuff that he did when in M/c that goes unrecorded.

There needs a bit of perspective taking.

AwesomePan · 17/07/2011 02:51

ner ner to you.

everything they do isn't tipped off to the media, at all.

and not that smart? Well..kind of...look at him now. Fit. Incredibly successful. Very very and again very rich. four children who he clearly adores. handles the media limelight.

yeah take your point. Not that smart.Grin

FreudianSlipper · 17/07/2011 02:58

does success mean that someone is intelligent Confused

talented yes very, a nice guy yes, great pr yes

you seem to be taking it a little too personally Hmm

AwesomePan · 17/07/2011 03:02

personally? Not at all. Just a sense of an injustice being portrayed.

Sad you think to do that means it has to be a personal issue. Try to think a bit broader than just you?

archieleach · 17/07/2011 08:13

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LittleWhiteWolf · 17/07/2011 08:35

I'm with those who think he wasn't intentionally sexist, just overwhelmed by a new baby (Their youngest son is what? 6? Its been a while!) and made a comment. I think they will dress her very pink and girly (sigh) but that doesn't mean DB won't play football with her like he does the boys, for example.

TheRealMBJ · 17/07/2011 09:07

Thanks archie that was uncalled for. perhaps you should check a poster's meaning before calling them a cunt? Particularly since typos's are

Refuses was an auto corrected typo. It meant to read foetuses. Ok?

I have a DS myself whom I love dearly.

It is still true however, that male infants and foetuses are biologically weaker than females.

I have reported your post.

TheRealMBJ · 17/07/2011 09:09

Oh and I think it is pretty clear from the context that it was a mistake.

Pagwatch · 17/07/2011 09:21

I think it is a bit much to criticise a bloke fir being stupid and then criticise him for muttering well worn cliches about girls being delicate.

Does anyone expect him to be a magnificent erudite mouthpiece for feminism like most footballers married to fashion designers would be?

He obviously loves his family. I am not really sure we are demanding much more than that of a slightly dim but well intentioned new dad.

SeniorWrangler · 17/07/2011 09:28

She probably read it at school. She doesn't read books now, she has said she prefers listening to music.

sternface · 17/07/2011 10:23

Another DB fan here - and like Pan, first saw him play in the reserves.

Everyone I've ever met who has personal knowledge of him and his family, reports that he is a genuinely decent bloke, with a very high regard for women.

Let's not forget that this was the man who suffered a massive fine from his misogynist boss when he missed training to look after Brooklyn, who was unwell.