David beckham - "you have to be a lot more delicate with girls" - what a tool.

[Moulesfrites]

link here,

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2015267/David-Beckham-reveals-reason-baby-Harper-Sevens-Harper-Lee.html

Eh? I thought being delicate was a good idea with all babies, because they're babies?

[sternface]

Massive difference between intellect and intelligence.

DB has the latter in spades.

[DontCallMePeanut]

[HerBeX]

I thought she came over v. well on that programme they did about some charity event they hosted



Not much use that reference, is it?

[HerBeX]

Yes but he's just one person, they have to let a few intellectuals in, just to vary the tone (David Mitchell is another, far more modest and probably cleverer, but that's just my prejudice).

If you look at all our public figures, I bet the stupid ones outnumber the clever ones. Not that I've counted, that would be a very long and boring job.

[katkitya]

That's not true bex, what about Stephen Fry? How come he's so popular then? how come millions of us tune in to watch Have I got News for You? If we only worshipped thick people? It's not saying much about us as a nation, is it?

[HandDivedScallopsrgreat]

I think VB is smart too noddy and much maligned too for some reason. But like HerBex I am failing to care too much about either of them. The remark by DB was incorrect, and certainly thoughtless but I doubt he applies much feminist analysis to any of his remarks .

[noddyholder]

I think she's smart She can't sing but she is intelligent and funny

[HerBeX]

"Of course they have intellect, how could they have got were they are otherwise"

By being intelligent enough to listen to people they know are cleverer than them.

Like the queen.

I don't care if they're clever or not tbh. In fact, I find myself not caring v. much about them at all. But it irritates the fuck out of me when people say other people must be intelligent if they're successful. Our culture hates intelligent people, it's deeply anti-intellectual and quite often the market has no use for intelligence per se. For all I know DB may be reading Tolstoy in the original Russian in his spare time, but if he were and everyone knew about it, I doubt if he would be quite so popular.

[katkitya]

I haven't seen any photos. Must go and have a search ....

[HerBeX]

"I may disagree with a lot of Victoria's political statement"

I wasn't aware she had made any

[MrsCampbellBlack]

If she's anything like my Dd - youngest with 2 older brothers - she'll be the most fearless/roughest one of the lot.

And i like the fact they just put photos of her on fb/twitter rather than selling them to a magazine.

Can you tell I rather like the Beckhams

[LaWeasel]

Realistically, she's got a load of brothers. I'm sure she'll get plenty of rough play in whether that's what her parents plan for or not.

(I also really like her name. It's fairly common in America so hardly a piss-take name.)

[katkitya]

Another Beckham supporter here, I'm afraid. I don't think this thread is turning out as panned is it? Give them a break those that are slagging them off. Of course they have intellect, how could they have got were they are otherwise? And, even if they are as thick as shit what has it got to do with anyone? They are a tight family unit. They do loads for charity that we will never know about. When home he regularly answers his door to little kids seeking autographs. They visit their childrens ward when they can. They use the nhs, remember the middle one has epilepsy? She goes to her local M and S for gods sake!!! What you see in the mags and what goes on in rl surely you all know they are two different things? You can see that?

[TrillianAstra]

He's not exactly a parenting expert, is he? I'm sure lots of perfectly normal people would say silly stuff like that if asked to make a statement about what it was like having a baby girl after 3 boys, 3 days after the birth.

Parenting tiny babies differently because of their sex is not ideal but you didn't really expect him to have read Delusions of Gender.

Nothing wrong with the name, better than living in Spain and calling a boy Cruz.

[MrsCampbellBlack]

Gosh - poor Beckhams - he's just overwhelmed by a baby and totally in love - think most of us with dc's have felt that way.

And really mean comments about VB not being able to read To Kill a MockingBird - honestly she does run a pretty good business so am guessing she'd be ok to read that book.

But hey its easier to sneer at her and bask in your own intellectual superiority I guess.

[sternface]

Another DB fan here - and like Pan, first saw him play in the reserves.

Everyone I've ever met who has personal knowledge of him and his family, reports that he is a genuinely decent bloke, with a very high regard for women.

Let's not forget that this was the man who suffered a massive fine from his misogynist boss when he missed training to look after Brooklyn, who was unwell.

[SeniorWrangler]

She probably read it at school. She doesn't read books now, she has said she prefers listening to music.

[Pagwatch]

I think it is a bit much to criticise a bloke fir being stupid and then criticise him for muttering well worn cliches about girls being delicate.

Does anyone expect him to be a magnificent erudite mouthpiece for feminism like most footballers married to fashion designers would be?

He obviously loves his family. I am not really sure we are demanding much more than that of a slightly dim but well intentioned new dad.

[TheRealMBJ]

Oh and I think it is pretty clear from the context that it was a mistake.

[TheRealMBJ]

Thanks archie that was uncalled for. perhaps you should check a poster's meaning before calling them a cunt? Particularly since typos's are

Refuses was an auto corrected typo. It meant to read foetuses. Ok?

I have a DS myself whom I love dearly.

It is still true however, that male infants and foetuses are biologically weaker than females.

I have reported your post.

[LittleWhiteWolf]

I'm with those who think he wasn't intentionally sexist, just overwhelmed by a new baby (Their youngest son is what? 6? Its been a while!) and made a comment. I think they will dress her very pink and girly (sigh) but that doesn't mean DB won't play football with her like he does the boys, for example.

[AwesomePan]

personally? Not at all. Just a sense of an injustice being portrayed.

Sad you think to do that means it has to be a personal issue. Try to think a bit broader than just you?

[FreudianSlipper]

does success mean that someone is intelligent

talented yes very, a nice guy yes, great pr yes

you seem to be taking it a little too personally

[AwesomePan]

ner ner to you.

everything they do isn't tipped off to the media, at all.

and not that smart? Well..kind of...look at him now. Fit. Incredibly successful. Very very and again very rich. four children who he clearly adores. handles the media limelight.

yeah take your point. Not that smart.