a teenager forced to pay compensation to her school after she refused to cheer for the man who raped her

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I don't often post here, but I read this article today and was so appalled

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'A teenage girl who was dropped from her high school's cheerleading squad after refusing to chant the name of a basketball player who had sexually assaulted her must pay compensation of $45,000 (£27,300) after losing a legal challenge against the decision.'

ok. You are graceless. And pretty small.

Nit-picking is asking people to read beyond what is being presented.

Tactics? What?? To acheive what? A defense of rapists? Utterly, utterly absurd. Iam not a 'random' as you so horribly call me.
Yes you are graceless and selfish and so ego-driven you won't be civilised to a 'fellow' feminist who disagrees with you.
do please grow up and learn some civility. It goes a long way.

Yes really the main point of the story is that a child was in a position where she had to chant sexually explicit things at her rapist.

The whole thing is just abhorrent.

But it seems like nowadays that rape doesn't matter.

This is entirely off topic, but when I was younger I used to help on a Christian summer camp. These camps are still run by the same people. Kids get taught no sex before marriage and all that other patriachal CRAP.

One of the male leaders is 24. He sent messages and emails of a sexual nature to a 14 year old (not during the residential period), and she responded with more sexual messages etc, and they arranged to meet in a hotel. He slept with her. She went to the camp in the summer and told two of the camp's leaders, both of whom are teachers. Both these adults told her that what happened was her own fault because she sent him the messages. They told her to stop playing the victim because she had obviously known what she was getting herself into at the time, and she had obviously wanted to sleep with him.

I was told of the story only fairly recently by another member of this team, in a 'goodness isn't this girl a thicko' type way.

I could get none of these women to understand that a child had been raped by a grown man.

Disgusting. Police advised that nothing could be done from my story as it was just word of mouth, which I expected really. DP did comment to me that even if it when to court, that the raping twat would probably get off as well.

No he isn't as far as I know, but that was due to his work, not because anyone told him to leave.
I have rung the leader of the camp and tried to get her to see she needs to contact the police, but she was just fuming that I even knew the story and she said I had misunderstood, but she couldn't explain how. It is a private camp.

Just so shocking that these women are teachers... parents send their children on these camps and presume that they will be kept safe.

And yes it is in this country.

Don't mean it's especially shocking because they are teachers btw, I meant because they are fully trained in child prtection as teachers.

dittany - the definition of a feminist isn't yours alone to determine. I am a feminist and have the scars to show for it. I am also careful to demonstrate a particular sensitivity around issues which are imporatant re forensic evidence and what is sustainable in courts, for example.

This man may, or may not be a rapist - we weren't there - but a horrible assault took place, wecan be sure of this. The inaccuracies in the reporting are clear re paymant basis and who pays it - papers are fabulous at making scenarios much worse than they they actually are - we all know this - they under report sex abuse then over report them if there is an 'angle'.

I now am passed caring if you withdraw your horrible allegation, buit it may be good if you did in any event.

I didn't think of social services at all actually dittany, thanks for that. I will ring them. I really need to pursue it, I feel so awful for this poor girl.

Yes, accuracy, and doubts about a sustainable proesection, and my concern forthe girl has been converted into nit-picking.

From this thread your ego-ness appears far more important than your so-called commitment to the feminist movement. I have met lots of your types overthe years - me, me, me NOT the issue, that's what's important. I contributed to this thread with a carefully balanced posititon .i.e. horrible assault and wit hhorrible ramifications for the victim re litigation, and then you personalised it with a mean-minded allegation which you have been unwilling to withdraw. That's how small you are.

You are no feminist beyond your typing skills.

you ARE desparate aren't you?

Scurrying around further up the thread to find 'evidence'.

dittany definition - hates to be challenged, when so will get personal, ego comes first, feminism second. Needs to grow up a lot. Generally graceless. Small.

no, you have no idea what it is to feel challenged. That's the arrogance bit.

Feminists are open to challenge - it's a rocky road. "Feminists" like you exist in your own psyche where you are invincible. Other feminists exist in a differnt world.

your are now too tedious.

good night.

To shift back on track; is there a way the school could have been challenged on failing in their duty of care instead of on the free speech thing? To me that's the far more shocking aspect of the case, and that applies whether it was 'just' an assault (as admitted to) or rape. Either way I would have thought that in a educational setting the first priority would be the victim of the assault?

Though I know little about US laws on that sort of thing...

indeed feminist your arse. that quote isn't misogeny. poor delusional you.

as I say, dittany first, feminism scond. I have see nthis repeatedly. You aren't any different.

anastsaia - yes It's clear isn't it? He should have been expelled on conviction. Not being allowed to be there as a team member at all.

oh dittany give it up? But you probably won't.