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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lie, damn lies and statistics!

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Bumperlicioso · 12/04/2011 12:14

In an effort to convince DH why feminism is relevant to me and my daughters (as well as in the wider world) I thought rather than bore him with reams of prose and diatribe I'd cut to the bone with some chilling statistics.

The thing is I am short on time (with a non-sleeping baby) and new at this feminist game so I haven't done a lot of reading.

I'm wondering if you can help me by pointing me in the direction of some statistics which I intend to convert into a power point presentation (which I am happy to share. I was thinking I could have different themes e.g pay, education, maternal health, abortion, DV voting etc.

What do you think? Can anyone help?

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RitaLynn · 12/04/2011 12:24

Are you really planning on giving him a powerpoint presentation on this?

I would recommend the Equality Illusion by Banyard that has a lot of stats.

sethstarkaddersmackerel · 12/04/2011 12:26

I was going to say the same Rita. A lot of it is in the intro which you may be able to find online.

I'm Shock and Grin at the idea of you powerpointing your DH as to why he should be a feminist.

my brother did a powerpoint once to show his sons Why They Should Behave, it was hilarious.

Bumperlicioso · 12/04/2011 13:01

Well I thought it would be amusing/shocking. I was going to add pictures of the DD's etc. and make it about how inequality might affect them. We had a bit of a debate the other day and he was asking me why I get so het up about feminism when inequality doesn't really affect me.

He objects to me bleating on about things in the abstract and he responds better to authority and research. He's also the geeky type so I thought this might get the message through.

I have the equality illusion actually (just not the time to read it!) so will check that out.

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Bumperlicioso · 12/04/2011 19:51

Bump for the evening crowd :)

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Unrulysun · 12/04/2011 19:59

Why don't you ask him to make a PowerPoint (with statistics) to convince you that you don't need to be a feminist?

Not sure why you're having to do his thinking for him tbh. He's a grown-up - tell him to have a look around.

Bumperlicioso · 12/04/2011 20:18

I'm not having to do this but I want to. And until I disabuse him of his naive view that feminism isn't relevant to us he's not going to take the time to investigate it just like I'd never read his boring photography websites

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tougholdbird · 12/04/2011 21:03

I was shopping at the weekend and went off in rant mode about DS Nintendo games named respectively 'cooking mama' and 'science papa'. DH edged away nervously at first, but then did his best to look concerned too. But I could tell he wondered where on earth this had come from. Please share your Powerpoint Bump, I think I might adopt your approach.

HerBeX · 12/04/2011 22:40

Seth can you please send me your brother's powerpoint doccy so that I can present it to my children? Grin

sethstarkaddersmackerel · 13/04/2011 20:18

It was funny HB, but it didn't work Grin

StayFrosty · 13/04/2011 20:24

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Bumperlicioso · 14/04/2011 09:49

So I did it. I pulled together a rough and ready power point yesterday and showed it to DH. To his credit he didn't batter an eyelid at my request. He said it was really shocking (e.g. I had one slide with the stat that 1 in 4 women experience some kind of sexual assault an added pictures of me and the dds). He said it really made him think and I think he is going to be more considerate of the idea of feminism and how important it is, though it's not like he's rushing out to read feminist books or anything (damn I should have had a slide with recommended reading Grin).

He also said my power point was very professional Grin

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InmaculadaConcepcion · 14/04/2011 09:56

Awesome, bumper!! Maybe you should make it available to all women with sceptical partners!

Bumperlicioso · 14/04/2011 10:21

I will, I'll take the pics out and save it in google docs. Maybe someone can add some more stuff to it. Thanks for your pm btw IC sorry I haven't got round to replying yet too busy with power point

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InmaculadaConcepcion · 14/04/2011 10:51

Don't worry Smile

Bumperlicioso · 16/04/2011 10:48

If anyone is interested I posted the links on this thread.

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