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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Victims of Violence

519 replies

Treats · 19/10/2010 12:57

So - this is the first thread I've started within the Feminism section, but I'm a long-time lurker and occasional poster.

I've been motivated to start a thread by this story from last week, and then also by this both in the last few days. (There was another one too but i can't find the link at the moment).

Every few weeks, it seems to me from reading the newspapers, a woman is killed by her husband or lover. Sometimes her children are harmed too.

My DH would like to argue that every single murder is an isolated incident, and caused entirely by factors only relevant to that one man. I argue that these cases are manifestations of misogyny, and that these are not isolated examples, but are all linked. He finds this an uncomfortable point of view, because of what it suggests about him, about us, about our friends.

I think that misogyny is similar to an epidemic - say, swine flu. It's infectious. It affects a significant proportion of the population, but not all. Of those affected, only a minority are severely affected. But it can be fatal - not for the sufferer, but for those close to them.

I don't know how many others here agree with me, but I do see a number of posts from some people who most definitely wouldn't. So the thread I want to start is to collect examples of victims of misogynist violence - women who were killed because they subverted their husbands and boyfriends desire to control them. I want people who visit this board with doubts about why feminism is necessary and justified to read my thread with its examples of victims and to start joining the dots for themselves.

Those posters who think that misandry is equivalent to misogyny are free to post their examples too (of women killing men).

If this thread (or something like it) already exists, then please point me to it and I will post there.

OP posts:
KRITIQ · 18/11/2011 23:30

Kate Prout

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 25/11/2011 14:52

Rosie Mayer

"They were described at the hearing as an unlikely couple, with Ms Mayer vivacious and independent while Mr Barrett was said to be insecure, with a controlling nature and was said to resent her spending time with her own children.

He had received counselling for his problems and Ms Mayer had been optimistic that he could overcome them, the inquest was told."

God, reminds me of some of the threads on Relationships here. :(

AyeBelieve · 27/11/2011 09:42

Tracy Jones

She contacted the police 5 times in 4 weeks before the fire. When are the authorities going to take women seriously and actually protect us? Investigations after the event are not working.

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 27/11/2011 23:00

Do you think we can find out how many complaints the IPCC has dealt with relating to domestic violence? Freedom of information?

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 28/11/2011 09:48

I see Patricia Bardon's killer will have to serve at least a whopping six years (link) for beating her up and breaking her neck before throwing her to the ground and killing her. Unbelievable.

AyeBelieve · 28/11/2011 15:08

E&M shock

""demonstrated that he was completely indifferent to Ms Bardon's well-being, an attitude compounded by his failure to seek medical help for her"" - and because of a lack of mens rea for murder, prosecutors accepted his guilty plea to manslaughter.

Just like in rape where for some rapists consent is neither here nor there and so can wriggle out of a conviction on lack of mens rea, this couldn't give a fuck attitude for women's well-being in crime situations means that the crime figures don't reflect the amount and seriousness of the violence that is committed by men against women.

Apols - that isn't very coherent but it makes me so fucking angry.

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 28/11/2011 15:40

Yes, as if the men who just hate women so much they don't even think of them as people can't possibly commit murder, as that would involve some degree of giving a toss about whether somebody lives or dies.

AyeSmagic · 02/12/2011 22:53

Suzanne Harper

Jacqueline Grant

AyeSmagic · 03/12/2011 07:38

Laura Wilson

AyeSmagic · 04/12/2011 21:21

Angela Holgate and Alice Huyton

AyeFartedOnSantasLap · 09/12/2011 12:28

The Day family

"TWO teenagers were being treated for serious injuries today after their former police officer father killed their mother and sister before killing himself.

Neighbours said Tobias Day had recently lost his police job.

He killed his wife Samantha and his seven-year-old daughter Genevieve, and attacked his two other children Kimberly and Adam before taking his own life yesterday."

AyeFartedOnSantasLap · 09/12/2011 13:43

Nijole Siskeviciene

AyeFartedOnSantasLap · 11/12/2011 11:57

2 as yet un-named women in Toxteth 1 woman murdered, 1 woman seriously injured, 1 man arrested.

AyeFartedOnSantasLap · 11/12/2011 15:58

Beverley Farrow

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 12/12/2011 12:59

Michelina Lewandowska survived by escaping after she was tasered and buried alive by her fiance.

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 12/12/2011 15:08

Evelyn Lund

KRITIQ · 12/12/2011 18:37

Kelsey Marie Shaw

Clair Smith

MJinSparklyStockings · 12/12/2011 22:43

:(

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 13/12/2011 16:38

Clair Smith and her sons Ben and Aron, murdered by her husband and the father of the boys.

The second family in a week killed by the so-called man of the house. :(

"Mr Taylor added: 'Ben's advent calendar is not opened on the Saturday so we believe something's happened overnight Friday or the early hours of Saturday'

Mrs Smith's family, including her parents Alan and Norma Smith, released a statement in which they described her as 'an exceptional person, loving and caring to everyone'.

They added: 'She was a loving mum, her children were her life, and everything centred around her family and home. She was our daughter and our best pal.'"

ScarlettIsWalking · 14/12/2011 21:46

This thread is so heartbreaking

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 15/12/2011 11:03

Lynne Small

AyeFartedOnSantasLap · 22/12/2011 13:17

Susan Ann Forster

AyeFartedOnSantasLap · 24/12/2011 15:41

Gillian Rennie

AyeFartedOnSantasLap · 27/12/2011 23:39

Gillian Woodward

AyeFartedOnSantasLap · 27/12/2011 23:44

Gaynor McGlyn