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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Victims of Violence

519 replies

Treats · 19/10/2010 12:57

So - this is the first thread I've started within the Feminism section, but I'm a long-time lurker and occasional poster.

I've been motivated to start a thread by this story from last week, and then also by this both in the last few days. (There was another one too but i can't find the link at the moment).

Every few weeks, it seems to me from reading the newspapers, a woman is killed by her husband or lover. Sometimes her children are harmed too.

My DH would like to argue that every single murder is an isolated incident, and caused entirely by factors only relevant to that one man. I argue that these cases are manifestations of misogyny, and that these are not isolated examples, but are all linked. He finds this an uncomfortable point of view, because of what it suggests about him, about us, about our friends.

I think that misogyny is similar to an epidemic - say, swine flu. It's infectious. It affects a significant proportion of the population, but not all. Of those affected, only a minority are severely affected. But it can be fatal - not for the sufferer, but for those close to them.

I don't know how many others here agree with me, but I do see a number of posts from some people who most definitely wouldn't. So the thread I want to start is to collect examples of victims of misogynist violence - women who were killed because they subverted their husbands and boyfriends desire to control them. I want people who visit this board with doubts about why feminism is necessary and justified to read my thread with its examples of victims and to start joining the dots for themselves.

Those posters who think that misandry is equivalent to misogyny are free to post their examples too (of women killing men).

If this thread (or something like it) already exists, then please point me to it and I will post there.

OP posts:
AyeFartedOnSantasLap · 28/12/2011 16:04

Katie Wynter

Dworkin · 29/12/2011 13:13

Sorry can't do the link/name of victim. Ruby Love.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2079473/Ruby-Love-murder-Man-arrested-womans-body-Londons-Grand-Union-Canal.html

This thread is horrifying to read but an excellent idea. It is shameful that so many lives are lost and so many families are crushed and all under the euphemistic term of 'domestic violence'. It's murder, plain and simple, and it's of epidemic proportions - think of the headlines if two healthy people a week were dying of some 'flu'.

AyeRobot · 02/01/2012 23:46

Susan McGoldrick 47, her sister Alison Turnbull, 44 and her niece Tanya Turnbull, 24 "There were 40 fatal injuries from crimes involving firearms in 2009-10" - and how many women were killed at the hands of men they knew in that time? More than double that number. So why is the focus on the BBC website about firearms killings and not about the murder of women by men they know?

AyeRobot · 03/01/2012 00:00

Kirsty Treloar

KRITIQ · 04/01/2012 22:17

Katy Winchester, age 21.

Murdered by her boyfriend who then committed suicide in April 2011, but the coroner's inquest being held now. Inquest has heard about his violent and controlling behaviour in the relationship.

KRITIQ · 04/01/2012 23:27

Claire O'Connor

"The man being held was arrested shortly after the grim discovery and is believed to be her boyfriend, Aaron Mann."

AyeRobot · 05/01/2012 12:32

Marie McGrory

KRITIQ · 05/01/2012 14:27

Catherine Wynter

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 06/01/2012 14:45

God, so many of these over Christmas :(

AyeRobot · 07/01/2012 13:08

Rebecca Holmes

KRITIQ · 15/01/2012 11:12

An as yet unnamed woman, 31, and her 8 year old daughter in Kirkby Avenue, Garforth, Leeds.

AyeRobot · 15/01/2012 20:55

Was just coming on to post, KRITIQ, so thank you. Sarah and Abigail Laycock

RIP.

No sidebar with an analysis of male violence against women, unlike the firearms analysis on the murders of Susan McGoldrick, Alison Turnbull and Tanya Turnbull. Perhaps I'll send this thread to the BBC to help them.

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 17/01/2012 11:39

I know. What a total shocker that the police didn't think that numerous violent incidents against his partner were grounds for removing his DEADLY WEAPONS.

Why make it too easy for women in violent relationships eh? Dealing with a man who probably massively out-does you in height and weight in definitely not enough of a challenge, let's just let the guy have guns in the house as well.

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 17/01/2012 17:49

Anyone see this?

Mentions Jane Parker, Jackie Evans and Dawn Clinton.

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 31/01/2012 00:28

Edite Titane

BasilRathbone · 05/02/2012 11:40

You know the awful thing about Edite Titane?

The bastard who murdered her, has been sentenced to life but has been told that he only has to serve 13 years before being eligible for parole.

So if he behaves himself in prison (and seeing as there won't be any women there to beat up, he probably will) he will be 38 when he comes out of prison. Easily young enough to find another victim and subject her to the same sort of controlling persecution to which he subjected Edite before he murdered her.

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 06/02/2012 10:24

A 74 year old woman in Blackpool.

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 07/02/2012 11:22

An unnamed 43 year old woman in Leeds

AyeRobot · 08/02/2012 11:14

The woman in Blackpool was Josephine Gilliard

SuchProspects · 08/02/2012 22:24

The Leeds woman was Patricia Cairns

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 12/02/2012 18:36

Cheryl Tariah, a 17 year old girl.

AlistairSim · 12/02/2012 19:16

Saddest thread ever.

Sad
theothersparticus · 14/02/2012 16:35

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StarsAndBoulevards · 15/02/2012 01:46

Manzoor Begum was killed by her husband. I don't want to type this up. They'd been married 60 years. How long had she suffered?

StarsAndBoulevards · 15/02/2012 01:51

Kelly, 39, was killed by a former lover. Article is particularly triggering.