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Attention all of us on the Hooters thread!! CEO of Hooters goes undercover on C4 tonight

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PussinJimmyChoos · 10/10/2010 19:33

Undercover Boss - C4 at 9pm

CEO of Hooters goes undercover

Will be interesting to see what it is like...

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TheButterflyEffect · 11/10/2010 09:50

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sethstarkaddersmum · 11/10/2010 15:55

from Guardian article:

'During his experiment, Coby discovers ? apparently for the first time ? that some women don't frequent Hooters because they believe it's degrading. The startled look on his face at this point is worth the price of admission alone'

Grin
scottishmummy · 11/10/2010 19:31

havent actually saw the show,catch it on replay

JessinAvalon · 11/10/2010 19:39

I am watching it now. I am speechless! This guy is clueless!

They set a brand that is all about the Hooters girl and write a handbook that has strict rules about what the girls should look like and then the president is shocked when one of his managers upholds the standards by inspecting the girls.

He has commented that he is shocked by some people's distaste for the brand and that the company is focused too much on the Hooters girl.

I really don't know what to say! Did he think his own company was all about the owls???

JessinAvalon · 11/10/2010 19:43

All that hair everywhere..! Customers must be constantly picking hair out of their food!

And that orange owl sign is starting to make me want to throw up.

I'm watching the bit with the female manager now and she seems good. But I've already read that her hours (and maybe her job) get downgraded at some point.

JessinAvalon · 11/10/2010 20:07

Just seen this. Can't remember if it's been posted already.

Review of Undercover Boss USA at Hooters

scottishmummy · 11/10/2010 20:28

eugh.cringetastic viewing

PosieParker · 11/10/2010 20:34

I have to say I was hoping for a lot more 'truth' and feel what we got from this was a nifty (albeit failed) bit of PR. Afterall Coby said he wanted to change the image but failed to address the uniform or inherent sexism, I lmao when he talked about Hooters girls being so much more so people needed to see that. Is that what you call women? You know the personality and flesh behind the breasts!!

The female manager takes on a less demanding role, the UK programs always seem to cut workloads and make jobs easier, not demote., The sexist twat had the board discussing whether they could save his career, misplaced PR, well he did apologise for being a misogynistic bullyShock.

For the viewer with an IQ above 10 I think this showed Hooters for the brand it really is, proving that no matter how many times you wipe a cows arse it still stinks of shit.

ISNT · 11/10/2010 20:35

Oh I didn't even spot the owl! Just seen it on the tshirt on the link, thanks jess.

Hooters means tits though, doesn't it. Why are they trying to pretend its about owls? That's just really weird.

sethstarkaddersmum · 11/10/2010 20:41

'Why are they trying to pretend its about owls?'

because there are people stupid enough to believe them which means it is a convenient alibi.
on another thread I was saying I thought the baby bibs with the Hooters logo were awful because it was awful to put a picture of breasts on a baby and I got at least one 'what are you talking about? they're just circles' response.

it enables everyone who likes all the sexist stuff to go around pretending there is nothing wrong.

whereas if they called themselves 'Breasts' with no double meaning they couldn't do that.

PosieParker · 11/10/2010 20:42

I love the Guardian!!! Can't think even Charlie Brooker could have penned a better article, but I'd love to read it if he did!!

ISNT · 11/10/2010 21:01

So I could advertise in a phone box "come and look at my muff" and when the punters turned up and I relieved them of their money in return for a look at my vintage fur shoulder-muff, all would be fine and dandy?

hahahahah

Actually reminds me of that thing (don't know whether it was true) - there was a phone line "listen to me moan" and when you rang up there was a woman going "what time do you call this? and why haven't you put that washing on? honestly I work my fingers to the bone and you just lounge around etc etc etc" and some bloke took them to trading standards and lost hahahhahahaha

JessinAvalon · 11/10/2010 21:03

"Why are they trying to pretend its about owls?"

"The chain acknowledges that many consider "Hooters" a slang term for a portion of the female anatomy. Hooters does have an owl inside its logo and uses an owl theme sufficiently to allow debate to occur over the meaning's intent. The chain enjoys and benefits from this debate."

From the Hooters website:

Hooters company info.....when in a hole stop digging?

JessinAvalon · 11/10/2010 21:04

I know I've posted this before but it always makes me laugh.

This restaurant is all about the elephants:

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ISNT · 11/10/2010 21:24

i am just PMSL about the owls. It's one of the most preposterous things I;ve ever heard!

JessinAvalon · 11/10/2010 21:28

I know, ISNT, but it's unbelievable how much mileage they get out of it!

ISNT · 11/10/2010 21:31

Now I can't stop thinking about alan partridge taking that woman on a date to the Owl Sanctuary!

Oh yes and when he got hypnotised and kept having to act like an owl "passing a pellet"

PMSL seriously

Ludicrous what a bunch of fuckwits

"It's all about the owls" Grin

Sakura · 12/10/2010 07:41

ROFL at ISNT's flabbergastedness

mathanxiety · 14/10/2010 05:50

Aliceinyourpartydress -- there are about 460 Hooters restaurants in the US. Most are located in decidedly downmarket areas. it is one of the fastest growing chains in the US, so obviously there are a lot of men who find it very attractive. Judging by these restaurant addresses for one American city and surrounding area, the appeal is very downmarket, very lowest common denominator. One I have personally passed many times on my way elsewhere is located along a busy truck route in a suburb famous for its Mafia connections and the generally scummy sort of businesses such connections attract to a municipality. Where there's the Mob, there's vice, or borderline vice, which is a perfectly acceptable American business model.

While it is probably true that not everyone in the US would be seen dead in a Hooters restaurant, the 'delightfully tacky yet unrefined' theme strikes a chord in America that might not resonate elsewhere, and the definition of a 'fun' waitressing job there might raise more eyebrows elsewhere than in the US. Appealing to the lowest common denominator is a feature of American politics to such an extent that a whole unrefined political movement fuelled by the values Hooters embodies now threatens to send representatives to Congress.

chrisking · 02/01/2011 14:48

WOW! I'm temporarily housebound and found the Hooters thread whilst browsing for other things
I've rarely seen so much rancorousness , blase generalisations, untruths and distortions.
I've taken myself, spouse and children around Hooters branches worldwide for years. It's actually fine and in many scores of visits worldwide over a good many years have never seen anything remotely untoward. Have any of you ever actually been in one?
Stateside, Mexico, Canada, Singapore. They have highchairs, do kids parties, serve far better food than Mcdonalds and have kids colouring books. They don't do wet tshirt contests or pole dancing for pities sake! There is an annual swimsuit parade stateside every year I believe but you're not forced to attend, I don't.
It's a sports bar cum restaurant where men cook the food and waitresses serve it. Even pregnant ones. All you will find is families and suchlike eating, drinking and watching sports channels on TV's.
Why not gripe about lapdancing, female circumcision, war, prostitution, slave trading, taxation or real issues? This is just an imported restaurant chain for goodness!

vesuvia · 02/01/2011 17:00

chrisking wrote - "They don't do wet tshirt contests"

The many web pages about Hooters wet T-shirt contests, including YouTube videos of such events, appear to contradict your opinion on that subject.

vesuvia · 02/01/2011 17:08

chrisking wrote - "Why not gripe about lapdancing, female circumcision, war, prostitution, slave trading, taxation or real issues?"

Oh don't worry, Mumsnet feminists do that too.

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