Up 3 x a night to wee cannot be normal

[cleo333]

Hi before I make a gp appointment ( I seem to be at the docs a lot of late ) I just wondered if anyone was the same .

im 57 and up a lot at night to go to the loo , 3x last night and I’m knackered ! I’m also a bit leaky wearing tena pads and having to keep myself clean etc as could smell of wee if not .

I don’t drink late avoid caffeine too

im on hrt

any thoughts ?

Second this. I had a couple of urine infections few years back, having rarely had them. GP suggested vaginal oestrogen because of atrophy. I only pee once during night now.

Yes that's my experience. I was up countless times a night but once I started using a ton of estriol cream I now sleep 7hrs a night with no disturbance at all.

I'm 56 rarely get up in the night, even the nights I don't sleep well. DH is 55 and gets up once most nights.
Could be type 2 diabetes, any other symptoms? Excessive thirst, thrush, unusual tiredness?

I’m 40 and this was me until I was given oestrogen pessaries… total game changer!

I second the above posters (late 60s). I felt the need to go to the toilet was dominating my life, and I’d never needed to go particularly often, until a few years ago! was told by my GP:

1. No caffeine
2. No fizzy drinks
3. Vaginal oestrogen

So long as I do the above, I don’t need to go in the night until about 7 - 8 am; and don’t feel like I need to go every hour in the daytime!

Well since taking it, I no longer have many trips to the loo and can sleep right through, I dont get aches and pains in bed like I used to when peri cropped up, Ive also lost that anxiety in the morning (most of the time) that also came on in peri. I also find it helps with digestion issues.

I take a 6 in 1 combination. If I forget or dont take it for a few days the symptoms come back.

Following with interest. I’m 45 and wake 3-6 times a night to pee. It’s been getting steadily worse the last few years. I too am having to now use incontinence pads in the day as I constantly leak. I’m peeing more in the day too, and I’m more thirsty than I’ve ever been. I had a diabetes test a week ago at the drs but they said that was fine. I’ve switched to caffeine free Pepsi max from around 7pm onwards - maybe I need to start that earlier because it is making a difference. I need to send an e-consult to the drs to book an appointment they said when they did the diabetes test, but I’ve not done it yet.

These comments are so interesting and helpful . Im going to try magnesium and see if it helps . I’m already taking oestrogen cream and it’s made no difference sadly

Oestrogen pessaries in the foof, OP - are you using those? Vagifem.

Standard dose is twice a week but I need more than that (4 ish) to keep an irritable bladder under control. I’d be lost without them.

If that stops working for me I’m eyeing Jude supplements next.

People who use vaginal oestrogen, do you use it every day? Is it a terrible faff?

@secureyourbook I take 375 mg with 14 mg vitamin B6, broken in two as they’re fucking enormous! My sleep improved within a few days, and I get mine from Poundland

Good luck 💐

I’ve need to pee 3 x a night since I gave birth, so about 15 years! I’m now mid- 40s

I have always needed to go for as long as I can remember, at least once, mostly twice.
I suppose it’s what’s normal for you? So if you’ve a change maybe make an appointment? I believe you can get over the counter urine tests, if you don’t want to see a G.P just yet.

You need it applied vaginally a not taken orally

I’ve been having real issues with this too. My sister sent me this article last week, and interestingly a nightly aspirin really is helping - at the most I’ve been up once, but have a few nights that I’ve not got up at all, for the first time in weeks.

I feel like mine stems from a Mounjaro-induced change to my HRT. Obviously, I am also talking to the doctor and working my way through tests for UTIs, before we presumably get to other tests. I don’t want to be taking daily aspirin for it as there is probably a hormone-related cause with a better treatment (or a change in HRT), but for the moment while that works through at least it’s getting me some sleep!

*This is not medical advice, blah 😆

Yes me too. It’s really worth asking your GP to explore all options, including blood tests and vaginal scan. A lot of people assume it must be menopause related and persevere for years trying different supplements and topical estrogen. Obviously this is often the case but not always.

T2 Diabetes for me. As soon as I got my sugar level under control I stopped needing to wake up during the night. Now if I have a bad few days and my sugars go high it’s one of the first symptoms to return.

@Timeforabitofpeace

I do, and no, why would it be a faff? I use my fingers to rub some inside/against bladder and then all over my perineum. I feel lovely and moisturised when I wake up.

I use a blob the size of a 50p everyday. GP gives me 4 tubes on each repeat prescription. It helps my prolapses too.

@Justputsomeyoghurtonit i think you confused me with someone else. I didn’t comment on that.

@Timeforabitofpeace sorry!!

Comment was for @Lottapianos 😳

It’s not normal, and certainly not in your 30s! I’d be getting checked out if I were you.

I would see a pelvic health specialist physio as well as GP. You may need vaginal oestrogen from GP which can be a game changer for many women plus pelvic floor strengthening can help. As vaginal walls thin, you can “feel” the bladder more and it feels like you need to wee, but actually there’s not much there. The oestrogen really helps with reducing that feeling of pressure.

Also read up on overactive bladder. And get yourself checked for T2 diabetes just for safety.

Haha just said my piece then read down the thread - glad to see you are also recommending VOe it’s amazing for many women.

It’s a super important mineral that most of us are lacking. When you read up about what it does and helps in our bodies, that might explain it to you.