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TAFKAtheUrbanDryad · 24/12/2009 19:33

Am currently re-reading Neil Gaiman's Sandman. Great stuff. Also love Alan Moore, Jamie Delano. Anything on Vertigo, basically.

Anyone else?

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cyteen · 24/12/2009 19:58

Ooh yes. Massive Alan Moore fan. Also, have you read Frank Miller/Bill Sienkiewicz's Elektra Assassin? One of my favourites.

Kaloki · 24/12/2009 21:16

Huge Sandman fan here too. Have you read any Dave McKean comics? He did Black Orchid, and has also done the illustration for an Arkham Asylum comic.

cyteen · 24/12/2009 21:50

Yeah, I've been wanting to get DP a second hand copy of Cages but haven't quite got round to it yet. I liked Mr Punch.

Kaloki · 24/12/2009 22:34

I haven't actually read Mr Punch, really really need to.

Also there is a comic of Neil Gaiman's Neverwhere, though I only managed to get the first issue

TAFKAtheUrbanDryad · 24/12/2009 22:40

I have the trade paperback of Neverwhere. It's not all that, IMO. I wasn't keen on the artwork tbh.

I only know Dave McCean as an artist. He did all the covers for the Sandman trades didn't he?

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Kaloki · 24/12/2009 22:43

He did, and did the film Mirrormask too

MrsBlackbeard · 25/12/2009 00:31

Put down my twinkle to start reading my brothers 2000ad in the late 70s .

I recently found a Judge death copy I drew when I was 10.Swore I would have Simon Beasley?s Babies if I ever met him because of his Slain the warrior. (Later with drew this on meeting him, as he was a little uncouth)

Kevin O Nails Nemeses the warlock (Sigh?) Red Sonya, New statesman. Wonder women around the same time.

When I was 16, someone gave me a large stack of heavy metals and one of the all time great British Comics known as warrior.
It carried the likes of V for vendetta, push button and laser eraser, captain Britain and zark the space pervert, a fine comic creation.

Then someone handed me a watchman when I was 18.Oh my.
Nothing was quite the same ever again.

Found Sandman and Hellblaser.

Started looking for women drawn comics and found ?Tits and clits? and ?Good girls don?t talk about politics and religion? around this time.

Got into ?8 Ball? and ?Love and Rockets?.
T
oward the mid 90s I didn?t read as many as I used to.
Only publications like Joe Sacco ? Palestine and the beautiful Persepolis by Marjane Satrapi mustered the way I used to feel about comics.

Attempted a couple of self publishes things.

I am a black t-shirt wearing sweaty comic geek of the highest order.

TAFKAtheUrbanDryad · 25/12/2009 10:21

MrsB - are you aware of "The Girly Comic"?

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bearcrumble · 25/12/2009 10:42

I love Vertigo comics too, TAFKA - Sandman is my absolute favourite.

I really liked Hellbazer until a few years back - I think the Denise Mina scripted one was the last I read.

I love Transmetropolitan. So funny.

Really enjoyed Y: The Last Man (premise is that all the men in the world suddenly die apart from one that we know of).

I think the best current comic is Ex Machina (superhero retires to be mayor of New York - lots of west wing style politics, things aren't black and white - really treats the reader like they have some intelligence).

I also like all the Amerian Splendor comics. Just everyday tales of s bloke that works as a clerk in a hospital and his life and his friends and aquaintances.

Kaloki · 25/12/2009 10:54

Ooh one I forgot, Tank Girl

dizietsma · 25/12/2009 11:09

Omigod, I've found the comic book mums! I was beginning to think I was the only one.

Another Moore fan here, I love V and Promethea best.

I'm afraid to re-read Sandman. It was awesome when I read it obsessively aged 15, it might not be anymore...

I thought Neverwhere was OK, but Gaiman's novels are not as good as his comics IMO. I think Anansi Boys is his best novel and it's not nearly as good as his best comics.

Love Transmet, I'm not so big on Warren Ellis's other stuff, but I love Spider

I read Hellblazer up to the end of Garth Ennis's run and loved it. Giving Satan the finger after he cures your lung cancer, how can you top that?

Briefly liked Grant Morrison until I realised he's a cut-rate Alan Moore.

Anyone read Alison Bechdels stuff?

Kaloki · 25/12/2009 11:17

I'm a huge Gaiman fan, have you read American Gods? That's his best novel IMO.

I was never too keen on Alan Moore, we've bought V for Vendetta but I didn't get far with it till I got bored. Much prefer the film.

I tend to pick up more one off graphic novels than anything. One I really love is called House of Secrets. I would say which other ones I like/own, but they are all packed away!

Did/does anyone read JTHM?

bearcrumble · 25/12/2009 11:58

I think Mike Carey's books are better than his comics. There's a series about an exorcist called Felix Castor who is very, very similar to John Constantine. I would very much recommend.

I love Neil Gaiman's books, especially Stardust and the most recent one The Graveyard Book (it's a kid's book but I don't care).

My husband interviewed him for The Word and I was SOOOOO jealous. I offered to transcribe it for him just so I could listen to his voice. (I've just checked, it is not online unfortunatly but if anyone wants to read it I'll ask him if I can post the full transcript here).

TAFKAtheUrbanDryad · 25/12/2009 13:11

We are mates with Mike Carey!

I loved Y. Have got full run of them. I stopped reading Hellblazer after Jamie Delano stopped writing them although dh still buys them.

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MrsBlackbeard · 25/12/2009 21:56

TAFKA Iv had a quick flick through the girly comic, but took my ball home when they wouldent go for my pitch, they are rather splendid though.Unfortunatly Im not good enough and I took a bit of a turn into the cultasack of politcal cartooning.
I may have to look into some of the above mentioned , but I get a cold sweat going near Forbinden Prices as the baby will be wearing old newspapers as nappys, money runs though my hands like water in comic shops and I have to be very carful going near the places.
(sorry about the dyslexea)

RaggedRobin · 25/12/2009 23:15

another fan of sandman.

i love grant morrison's 'invisibles', probably because i'm a big robert anton wilson fan, and also love garth ennis's 'the preacher'.

haven't read many graphic novels for a while, though i did get alan moore's 'the lost girls' for my birthday a few years ago, which i have to hide in case my mum finds it when she is babysitting

TAFKAtheUrbanDryad · 26/12/2009 19:47

I got Lost Girls for my Mother's Day gift!

MrsB - I can't believe they wouldn't go for your pitch!! They went for mine, and I can't write for shit! Dh got 2 stories in the anthology - which was nominated for a British Fantasy Award (I think)

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TAFKAtheUrbanDryad · 26/12/2009 19:54

Ps - fuck Forbidden Planet, if youre in London go to Gosh (opposite British Museum) much more friendly prices - and they stock dh's comic (although you can read it all online for free!)

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bearcrumble · 26/12/2009 20:42

Can you post a link to your husband's comic? I'd love to read it.

bearcrumble · 26/12/2009 20:46

RaggedRobin - I believe HBO are making a TV series of Preacher...

I don't get on with Grant Morrison really at all. I didn't like the Invisibles and I tried 7 soldiers of victory but again, it was all bloody insects from another dimension - surely you can't have them as the baddies in two seperate series' ?

TAFKAtheUrbanDryad · 26/12/2009 20:50

Invisibles is poo IMO. It's the Poppy Z Brite of comics. Bleh.

Here you are bearcrumble. It's not all them, but it's some of them. Wish I could write as well as dh does or better still, draw, so we could collaborate. Ah well.

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MrsBlackbeard · 27/12/2009 02:24

TAFKA Im in Bristol, and I have seen a more independent comic shop in town that looks interesting but has crappy pram acsess.
We are just round the corner from the convention when it hits town. I completely forgot about it this year as I was wondering around in 'pregnant reality disruption field'.
Iv been told off for what looked like driving traffic through my blog on hear before but Ill post up a sneaky link to one of the non political cartoon strips on my website.
(Im tidying it up for the elections hopefully, so it a bit messy)
Link:www.bluelou.net/trans1.html
Im in the process of construction a graphic novel based on a story I told my DD when she was little because her hands were cold one night and I forgot her gloves. Its taken about 5 years to write the blasted thing, Iv drew the ruffs first to visualize the story.
Im extremely dyslexic so it been a bit of a nightmare. Its only 30 bloody pages long.
I swore id never do a kids book, but I always swore Id never have kids.
Iv given it to a mate to see if she can tidy the bloody thing up, before I can get to the fun bit of construing it, this time Im doing it in color and using more dip pen rather then ink and Photoshop.
The last graphic novel I made was for a show called the 'Birds of war' and I had delusions of Sacco in an anti war theme.
I made a big version of the comic and presented in the gallery.

The large copy has been signed by most of the top political cartoonists in the country who turned up for the show along with the likes of Simon Bieasly and Brian Talbot who were about the year I took it along to The comic con hear in Bristol after TBOW show.

The problem is I keep insisting on writing my comic strips as well as illustrating them. Also, Just as Im on the verge of a brake, something always happens. An example: I was recommended to Ian Kats editor of the 'Guardian' as a cartoonist and he emailed me in person to ask me to send him some stuff over. My Brother was in a hospice and was 2 weeks off dieing from cancer when I got the email, I had, to say the least, lost my sense of humor at the time, and posted some piss poor cartoons back to him.
The last one was I was talking to Private eye about doing something for the website,and was going to to some spec work, was looking into doing kind of anamated gifs and the like, couldent sit at the computer for throwing up all of a sudden two days after I talked to them.The little blue lines on the majic pee stick was the only line I made for a long time.

Illustrating is a very time consuming activity and when there?s mushed banana on the floor and the evil creativity killer pixy of 6 months old, its a bit of a fight for that space/time to make things.
Im currently planing to construct (Seriously) a giant play pen 5 squared meters big with all my equipment and computer raised up on a 4-foot shelf out of his reach (DS). Im getting rid of the sofa and replacing it with bean bags and a old futon on the floor, I live in slightly stupid accommodation and the main room is difficult to baby proof, its new function is to be a art studio and baby safe play area, I don?t feel its as bad to put him in a baby cage if I?m in there with him as well.

I drew my first self published comic 8 years ago stood up during most of it production with all my art stuff on a shelf to keep it out of the way of my DD. She would occasionally try and crawl up my leg as I stood holding a small drawing board between nappy changes and the like. (Gasps of horror from good mummy?s) I was a lone parent at the time she was a toddler and it was one of the ways I had to do things to keep drawing.
Sorry this has turned into a bit of a long-winded whine about how to cartoon with infants around, its what Iv spent the day trying to work out.I have a couple of months left befor he gets mobile and theres a election comeing.
Im vistaing famly next week so I maynot be able to go online for a week hope this thread may be still knocking around when I get back.
Sorry again about the epic novel of this posting,..im going to go and express some milk now and shut up...

TAFKAtheUrbanDryad · 27/12/2009 10:17

MrsB - will reply more fully to you later, but one word: sling.

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