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50 Books Challenge 2023 Part Eight

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Southeastdweller · 31/08/2023 17:05

Welcome to the seventh thread of the 50 Books Challenge for this year.

The challenge is to read fifty books (or more!) in 2023, though reading fifty isn't mandatory. Any type of book can count, it’s not too late to join, and please try to let us all know your thoughts on what you've read.

The first thread of the year is here, the second one here, the third one here here, the fourth one here, the fifth one here, the sixth one here and the seventh one here

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EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 09/10/2023 23:48

It just all felt highly unlikely @FuzzyCaoraDhubh woman gads about on horseback against social norms of the day with a high risk pregnancy to boot. A bit earnest, doubt it was that feminist in 1612 tbh.

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 10/10/2023 00:01

Mmm...I remember the galloping round @EineReiseDurchDieZeit I think what annoyed me was the lack of historical context (or something!)

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Mothership4two · 10/10/2023 02:20

I read The Familiars last year and agree with @EineReiseDurchDieZeit - not realistic at all but quite an enjoyable, if unchallenging, story. I found the husband's reason given to his wife for taking a mistress made me chuckle: "I was soo worried about your health if you got pregnant that I played away, but not that worried because I still had sex with you and you got pregnant anyway"!

I would have much rather had much more of the Pendle Witch Trials themselves, although I'm sure it would be pretty grim and the "happy ending" probably wouldn't have worked.

Mothership4two · 10/10/2023 04:01

45 The Sealwoman's Gift by Sally Magnusson

The book is based on the historical events of 1627 when pirates raided Iceland and abducted 400 people (men, women and children) taking them to Algeirs where they were sold into slavery. One man was freed, Reverend Ólafur Egilsson, to enable him to attempt to lobby for a ransom to release some of the slaves. Written from the perspective of his wife Asta as she tries to come to terms and survive life without having control of what happens to her or her children. Over time her relationship with her master Cilley and with Algiers changes.

I knew nothing about the attack on Iceland and found this a very gripping story. Life goes on for the slaves (as it does for those left behind) and over time everything seems less black and white. Sensitively told with some magical realism that reflects the Icelandic stories and sagas.

splothersdog · 10/10/2023 06:29

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 09/10/2023 23:48

It just all felt highly unlikely @FuzzyCaoraDhubh woman gads about on horseback against social norms of the day with a high risk pregnancy to boot. A bit earnest, doubt it was that feminist in 1612 tbh.

Totally agree. That was what annoyed me the most about the book. No way would a woman who had had multiple miscarriages and was married be able to ride around the county as she did.
I really dislike it when an author ignores a basic truth in order to make the story work. It feels lazy.

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 10/10/2023 06:35

I DNF The Familiars.

BoldFearlessGirl · 10/10/2023 06:55

There’s a good book waiting to be written about Gawthorpe Hall and the Shuttleworths, but The Familiars isn’t it. I might have read the whole thing if it was a fictional Hall and protagonist, but it annoyed me so much that she just took the Shuttleworth name and wrote a load of old bollocks about it.
The original Mist Over Pendle by Robert Neill is good and The Malkin Child by Livi Michael.

RazorstormUnicorn · 10/10/2023 08:14

55. Elsewhere by Dean Koontz

I finally joined my local library and this is my first book from it! I think DH is right, I mostly need to get on the app and order stuff that isn't dropping in price on my Amazon wishlist.

I haven't read a Dean Koontz in ages, I was obsessed as a teen and into my 20s. This has all his usual ingredients. Single parent/carer. Unusually brave and intelligent kid. No dog this time but a white mouse (I think he must have been challenged by someone to mix it up!). Strange event happens and the good guys have to face down some bad guys. The formula hasn't changed and it still works well enough .The strange events are still imaginative. By now though it's not scary at all as I am confident the good guys will win every time. I'd love it if one book he mixed up and the ending wasn't happy.

SoIinvictus · 10/10/2023 08:24

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 10/10/2023 06:35

I DNF The Familiars.

I can't remember if I did or not 😂 I might not even have started it.

I confuse SH greatly with Laura Purcell and both leave me thinking "and? And?".

I am enjoying Fingersmith a lot. Proper brooding Victorian gothic. I'm only 4 chapters in and do need to stop imagining Gentleman as a cross between Missy in Doctor Who and Heathcliffe but I'll get there. I know the premise of the story so no surprises upcoming but Waters will go in my "look out for more" Sarah pile. (Winman being in the "never again" Sarah pile and Moss straddling piles depending.

I'm trying to be methodical and whilst reading one fiction on the Kindle am dipping in and out of one serious non fic and one not so serious.

So also thoroughly enjoying No Such Thing As Society about the 80s. Started off very seriously about Thatcherite economics and I thought I might not get through it, but we're onto Duran Duran now, so all good.

And treating myself to a letter a day from Philomena Cunk's Encyclopedia of Everything (I think the title is. The format is the same as the Cunk on Everything TV series (intentional errors and just brilliant pat one liners. Genius)

GrannieMainland · 10/10/2023 08:27

I didn't like The Familiars much but I can't remember why. It wasn't the galloping around pregnant, I don't mind a bit of ahistorical creative content, I think it was more the overall pacing was off and it had an annoying ending.

I've just finished, after about 3 weeks, book 69 - A Lady's Guide to Fortune Hunting by Sophie Irwin. Resourceful Kitty, faced with 4 sisters to support and a leaky roof, heads off to London for the season determined to find a rich husband but her plans are foiled by the mysterious Lord Radcliffe. She thinks she hates him, what could possibly happen?!

I found this very slow going and dull until the final couple of chapters when there was finally a bit of drama. I've enjoyed a lot of flimsy books recently (see my recent rave review of the absurd Red White and Royal Blue!) and I love things like Bridgerton. I think it wasn't quite post-modern enough - Kitty is a bit more confident and resourceful than you'd get in an older regency romance, but apart from that it just felt like someone doing a Georgette Heyer tribute.

In contrast I really enjoyed The Agency for Scandal by Laura Wood last year - which is YA about a young woman trying to rescue her family fortunes, but she is also part of a secret all female crime fighting squad who run around in disguise and learn martial arts etc. Great fun. I say all this because it seems to be in the 99p deals today.

Stokey · 10/10/2023 08:32

Anyone got any recommendations for my 13 year old DD (Y9) who is stuck in a bit of a rut reading wise? She did all the dystopia - Hunger Games, Divergent etc - in Y6, and then has done some of the romance stuff in the last 2 years - Twilight, a bit of CoHo but is not really keen, the cancer, death ones, Karen McManus & We Were Liars, Sarah Maas, Holly Black. I've suggested a couple of things that she finds a bit slow, so I think she's after a page turner, but they're doing Agatha Christie at school so she doesn't want a murder.

I feel like there must be a few obvious ones I'm missing. Also she responds better to female main characters.

GrannieMainland · 10/10/2023 08:50

I've read very little YA @Stokey so I'm not an expert but I'd recommend the book I just talked about in my last post The Agency for Scandal, it's a page turner in that there is a big crime to unravel, but it's not a murder mystery.

TattiePants · 10/10/2023 09:05

I read The Familiars a few years ago. I found it readable but instantly forgettable and have had no desire to read any of her books since.

BoldFearlessGirl · 10/10/2023 09:34

Frances Hardinge? @Stokey A Face Like Glass and Cuckoo Song are good iirc. I liked The Lie Tree but it divides opinion on here. Have to say Unraveller isn’t a DNF as such, but I’ve not been in the mood to continue with it as yet.

Terpsichore · 10/10/2023 09:37

67: Frauen - Alison Owings

It’s taken me an immense amount of time to read this book, with consequent impact on my total number of books read this year (which I can glimpse approaching through the mist). That’s not just because it’s well over 400 pages of teeny, tiny type, but because the content is so genuinely upsetting that I've had to put it aside numerous times and could only read it in small chunks.

Owings is an American who, in the late 80s/early 90s, interviewed some 50 German women who’d lived through the Third Reich - 29 testimonies made it into the book. Her reason was that we invariably hear a male-centric view of the events of WW2, but very rarely a female one. Her subjects range from a woman who successfully fed and hid her (Jewish) best friend for over two years in the heart of Berlin, living in an apartment with prominent Nazi supporters living on either side, to another who was sent by the authorities to work as a guard in a prison camp, where Hungarian Jewish women were set to work at the terrible and dangerous task of filling shells with explosive.

There are all shades of experience in between - working-class women, religious women, Party members, those who later repented and are appalled at the crimes of the regime, and - horrifically - those who clearly still don’t see what Hitler did that was so bad. All were forced to live their lives under the Nazis by different pressures - social, economic, legal, familial - but not all responded in the same way.

Owings transcribes their (taped) conversations with vivid renderings of each woman’s dialect and manner, and she doesn’t keep herself out of the exchanges, which makes sense to me, although some reviews online don’t like this approach. Whatever - this is an impressive but completely blood-curdling book, with some details that are the stuff of nightmares. The utter horror of the Nazi's obsessive grip on every single aspect of German life pervades each line and makes you realise the true, sickening meaning of where a society is headed the moment it starts to single out and demonise some of its members. It’s impossible not to look around at our own circumstances right now and feel very uneasy indeed.

PowerTulle · 10/10/2023 10:20

I remember The Familiars. Also remember thinking how on earth do you even sit on a horse with a huge solid bump?! Where does it go?

The Man Who Died Twice by Richard Osman

Follow on to the Thursday Murder Club , whereupon the intrepid team get to work again. A mysterious letter to Elizabeth starts a series of events including a violent murder, a diamond heist and a series of coded clues. Fun story and an easy read, if you liked the first one then I’d say you won’t be disappointed with this.

BoldFearlessGirl · 10/10/2023 10:22

I shall look out for that @Terpsichore . So important to keep it in our minds, as witnessed by those who were there.

Tarahumara · 10/10/2023 13:17

@Stokey how about something like Life of Pi or The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night Time?

DuPainDuVinDuFromage · 10/10/2023 13:21

The Dark Queens sounds great @AliasGrape - I’ve been listening to the French History Podcast and it covered these two briefly, so it would be good to read about them in more detail. Added to the list!

@Stokey would your DD be interested in Terry Pratchett? I know plenty of people don’t like them but they’re very readable and funny. Lots of possible starting points depending on what sort of thing she likes (but I wouldn’t bother with the first two - better to start with one of the Witches books (including Tiffany Aching) or Guards books, or one of the standalones like Small Gods).

Alternatively, going slightly out on a limb here, decades ago I really enjoyed a series by Elizabeth Peters about Egypt in the 1920s - lightweight mysteries with a likeable protagonist (called Amelia Peabody - searching for that name should bring up a list of the books in the series). I never seem to hear about anyone else having read them but maybe I’m wrong and they’re hugely well-known! However, they’re possibly a bit too Agatha Christie for your DD’s requirements at the moment.

minsmum · 10/10/2023 13:39

@DuPainDuVinDuFromage I have the whole set on my kindle, love the Amelia Peabody books

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 10/10/2023 13:40

@Stokey

Am I right in saying she's read Eleanor and Park?

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 10/10/2023 13:41

@BoldFearlessGirl

God, how very annoying! Old bollocks Grin

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 10/10/2023 13:47

@Stokey

Roll Of Thunder Hear My Cry

BoldFearlessGirl · 10/10/2023 16:42

70 The New Puritans by Andrew Doyle. Found this surprisingly patronising and verbose. I didn’t expect to agree with him on everything, but it wasn’t as balanced or impartial as I thought it would be. Or anywhere near as funny as it could have been. Not enough variety in his sources, not enough rl examples of Social Justice Warrioring. I was glad it ended at 56% on my Kindle tbh, the rest was reams and reams of footnotes. We get it, you read The Crucible, get over yourself, so did I when I was 15 🙄. Also, Jordan Peterson is more than capable of sticking up for himself.

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