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Children's books that don't quite rhyme

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PolarBlair · 05/01/2023 12:46

Does anyone else find this so annoying?
I have no problem with books that don't rhyme at all.
Then there are geniuses like Julia Donaldson and Dr Seuss where it rhymes and flows so well.

But the ones I find so annoying are the ones where the syllables are off, the rhymes are not quite rhymes (in any accent), the same word has been used twice to make line A & B rhyme.

These are often self published but do the authors not realise? Do they not ask friends?

I often want to take a red pen, correct them, and send them back

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stargirl1701 · 05/01/2023 12:48

I do alter my accent when reading to force the rhyme.

Like in The Smartest Giant in Town by Julia Donaldson scarf and laugh do not rhyme for me but I put on an English accent and go for scarf and larf!

SleepingStandingUp · 05/01/2023 12:50

Can yo u give an example? If its rhyming 7 with anything I have sympathy. Mike Brunslow has characters looking to heaven a lot.

ChristmasCakeAndStilton · 05/01/2023 13:01

See, I don't think Donaldson always gets it right - there is a peculiar couplet in the highway rat, and scarf, laugh, giraffe don't all rhyme.

It's an accent thing as much as anything.

Elemenohpe · 05/01/2023 13:04

Scarf laugh and giraffe rhyme for me, must be impossible to make everything rhyme for every accent.

SBAM · 05/01/2023 13:04

@SleepingStandingUp is that the ‘ten little’ series? We have a few and some of the rhymes for seven (oven?) are a bit tenuous.

I generally like Julia Donaldson ones but scarf/laugh/giraffe is not a rhyme in my accent, and some of her books I find difficult to get the correct rhythm for it to sound right (the lines about silly frilly dress in Zog and the flying doctors)

Elemenohpe · 05/01/2023 13:05

10 little super kids is hard to make flow i find

Velda · 05/01/2023 13:07

Songwriters tend to do this a lot. They force things to rhyme by using terrible grammar. Or they just don’t rhyme properly at all. In terms of children’s books, Tom Fletcher is a prime example. He’s a musician and his songs don’t rhyme, his children’s books don’t rhyme either, and they wouldn’t have been published at all if he wasn’t a celeb.

TeenDivided · 05/01/2023 13:07

Elemenohpe · 05/01/2023 13:04

Scarf laugh and giraffe rhyme for me, must be impossible to make everything rhyme for every accent.

They rhyme for me too.

CraneBoysMysteries · 05/01/2023 13:08

Yes, I hate this!

We have a couple of books that I detest reading to my son.

Dragon Stew is one (forget the author). He goes from rhyming within a sentence/line to rhyming beginning and end of a paragraph. (Im sure there's a more technical way to describe this). It halts the flow and makes reading it impossible

onyttig · 05/01/2023 13:10

As others have said, Julia Donaldson books are full of rhymes that don’t work in many accents.

There are also some truly shit lines in some of her books. ‘His plaster gleaming pinkly as he zig zagged through the blue’ annoys me every single time.

Dr Seuss possibly is too, although many of those rhymes might just be simpler (hard to go wrong with hop and pop or cat and hat in most accents).

Writing consistent, rhyming poetry for all English speaking accents is a hard ask though.

123ZYX · 05/01/2023 13:12

I can normally force Julia Donaldson's to rhyme (she clearly didn't write with my short Brummie vowels in mind). I really hate the repeated bits of Highway Rat though - I can't get the rhythm right. And now DS can read, he knows when I skip over them

onyttig · 05/01/2023 13:12

Dr Seuss made up loads of nonsense words in his rhymes too.

onyttig · 05/01/2023 13:13

123ZYX · 05/01/2023 13:12

I can normally force Julia Donaldson's to rhyme (she clearly didn't write with my short Brummie vowels in mind). I really hate the repeated bits of Highway Rat though - I can't get the rhythm right. And now DS can read, he knows when I skip over them

I can manage them after a fashion.

but I find ‘the robber snatched the sack and snarled’ a bit of a tongue twister.

TheGirlWhoLived · 05/01/2023 13:14

Are the rhymes in the highway rat similar to the rhymes in the highwayman poem? Could be it isn’t a couplet but a … throuplet?

ProceedWithOptimism · 05/01/2023 13:16

Loads of Julia Donaldson's lines don't scan in a Scottish accent, it gets on my nerves!

Sarri · 05/01/2023 13:23

Ha ha, I saw this thread title and came to say, Julia Donaldson! I dont know where she is from but I dont think it can be Northern England!

SleepingStandingUp · 05/01/2023 13:36

SBAM · 05/01/2023 13:04

@SleepingStandingUp is that the ‘ten little’ series? We have a few and some of the rhymes for seven (oven?) are a bit tenuous.

I generally like Julia Donaldson ones but scarf/laugh/giraffe is not a rhyme in my accent, and some of her books I find difficult to get the correct rhythm for it to sound right (the lines about silly frilly dress in Zog and the flying doctors)

Yes, we have them all which doesn't help but if you're going to rhyme numbers in book after book, at some point I guess you end up with oven 😂😂

SleepingStandingUp · 05/01/2023 13:37

Elemenohpe · 05/01/2023 13:05

10 little super kids is hard to make flow i find

My least favourite . It's so wordy compared to the others.

SleepingStandingUp · 05/01/2023 13:39

Velda · 05/01/2023 13:07

Songwriters tend to do this a lot. They force things to rhyme by using terrible grammar. Or they just don’t rhyme properly at all. In terms of children’s books, Tom Fletcher is a prime example. He’s a musician and his songs don’t rhyme, his children’s books don’t rhyme either, and they wouldn’t have been published at all if he wasn’t a celeb.

Oh I love his "there's an X in my book" books

Cleanupinthemonkeyhouse · 05/01/2023 13:40

When mine were little, I actually prefered those to the standard twee,all rhyming ones !

needthiswilderness · 05/01/2023 13:47

Yes I bloody hate it and pleased to find I'm not alone... I'm constantly on a boring rant that no-one in my family responds to about how annoying it is that children's authors seem to think the only acceptable way to write for small kids nowadays is in (frequently terrible) rhyme! Why?! I even find Julia Donaldson (side note: her monopoly over kids' lit is annoying to me too) frequently extremely irksome. Watching smeds and smoos last night and the Janet/planet rhyme was bugging me so much. Just so contrived to name an alien Janet to rhyme with planet!! Argh, thanks for giving me a space to vent on this issue that is v personally irritating but that must people could not give a shit about😂

needthiswilderness · 05/01/2023 13:48

(PS. Just thought of an absolute prime example of the weird half-arsed rhyme genre - Pirate Stew by Neil Gaiman)

BigMadAdrian · 05/01/2023 13:55

There are some dreadful bits in Julia Donaldson (although scarf, giraffe and laugh do rhyme in my accent) - Superworm is the worst imo, it's so lazy!

PurpleParrotfish · 05/01/2023 13:57

This has reminded me of Squash and a Squeeze which used to bug me as it doesn’t scan properly! If you’re going to use a tum-diddy tum-diddy tum-diddy tum pattern then stick to it and don’t stick extra words in.

TheBirdintheCave · 05/01/2023 14:06

When reading to my toddler this is something that I’ve found,
Often now I bite my tongue or change the sentence round,
To make it work or smooth the flow, to offer a correction,
To he who chose that noun or verb or wrote with that inflection.

Rhyming schemes are easy if you take the time to try,
But it seems these days that authors are more motivated by,
Quantity over quality, (prose with brief evaluation),
And it will forever be, to me at least, a source of irritation.