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Our Mutual Friend Readalong

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Piggywaspushed · 04/08/2020 16:07

As discussed on the previous Davis Copperfield Readalong, I hope some of us are eager to start Our Mutual Friend!

This is quite a complex one to break up. As usual, Dickens published in 19 monthly instalments but this one has 4 'Books' .

It is split up as follows:

BOOK THE FIRST: THE CUP AND THE LIP
I – May 1864 (chapters 1–4);
II – June 1864 (chapters 5–7);
III – July 1864 (chapters 8–10);
IV – August 1864 (chapters 11–13);
V – September 1864 (chapters 14–17).
BOOK THE SECOND: BIRDS OF A FEATHER
VI – October 1864 (chapters 1–3);
VII – November 1864 (chapters 4–6);
VIII – December 1864 (chapters 7–10);
IX – January 1865 (chapters 11–13);
X – February 1865 (chapters 14–16).
BOOK THE THIRD: A LONG LANE
XI – March 1865 (chapters 1–4);
XII – April 1865 (chapters 5–7);
XIII – May 1865 (chapters 8–10);
XIV – June 1865 (chapters 11–14);
XV – July 1865 (chapters 15–17).
BOOK THE FOURTH: A TURNING
XVI – August 1865 (chapters 1–4);
XVII – September 1865 (chapters 5–7);
XVIII – October 1865 (chapters 8–11);
XIX-XX – November 1865 [chapters 12–17 (Chapter the Last)].

4 instalments is feasible but might be too much for those of us working/ reading other books/child or DP wrangling/ insert other reason.

Therefore, I would suggest 8 instalments, splitting each book in two somehow?

That would take us to March 2021 and then we can pretend 2020 never existed.

Up for it? Thoughts?

Looking forward to it! All usual suspects and newcomers welcome.

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Terpsichore · 01/11/2020 13:38

Sorry that I won’t be joining in this time, Piggy, I haven’t been able to read the chapters. I hope to catch up for the next meeting.

BadSpellaSpellaSpella · 01/11/2020 13:46

I too am so glad it's not just me! Ive read loads of Dickens and I've never had a problem following the plot before Confused

Im assuming Lizzie will be in a love triangle with thre school master and the lawyer guy?

Piggywaspushed · 01/11/2020 13:50

No worries terpsichore.

Yes, Lizzie will get embroiled. The school master is a bit Uriah Heepish perhaps?

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Indigosalt · 01/11/2020 15:57

Checking in Smile

I feel like it's rambling all over the place and I have no idea whatsoever where it's going, but I'm actually enjoying it. I'm interested in the Lizzie/Wrayburn/teacher plot - can't make my mind up what Wrayburn is up to but I'm intrigued to find out.

Really enjoyed reading about Bella's day out with her Dad in Greenwich. Is she a practical realist or a heartless gold digger? I can't decide, but Dickens leaves us in no doubt at all that being poor is rubbish in OMF - look at what happens to poor little Johnny!

Did anyone else find the way Johnny's death was presented as rather unfeeling? He'd barely given his toys away to the child in the bed next to him before the Boffin's are on the search for a new orphan to adopt. Brutal.

Piggywaspushed · 01/11/2020 17:41

It was brutal. Dickens did like his dead child scenes!

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InMyOwnParticularIdiom · 01/11/2020 19:28

I'm still enjoying it a lot and find it hard to stop at the end of the month's chapters. It's grittier than I was expecting - it's clear that Lizzie's position is precarious and she's one step away from becoming a fallen woman. When Lightwood asks Wrayburn what his intentions are towards her, one of the options he suggests is to seduce and abandon her - and nasty Fledgeby asks her what she's 'selling' when he meets her on the shop roof.

Piggywaspushed · 01/11/2020 19:32

You read so much more carefully than me but, yes, the leering over Lizzie is ominous. Will Rokesmith (or whoever he is... duh duh duh) or someone gallant save her?

Fledgeby is vile.

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ChessieFL · 01/11/2020 20:01

You’re all reading much more carefully than me, I missed some of that! I did have to rush this month’s chapters though so I wasn’t reading as thoroughly as I should.

Piggywaspushed · 02/11/2020 09:47

I do find, more than DC, though that it washes over me.I am not rushing as such. But I am probably skimming!

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ChessieFL · 02/11/2020 12:40

I think it’s partly because I can’t link what I’m reading with the plot. With DC I could read about an event and see how it fitted in with his life whereas with this I read about an event but I don’t know who the people are or how it fits in with anything else so it doesn’t stick in my brain.

Piggywaspushed · 02/11/2020 13:06

Yes to that.

Also I found DC very vivid, almost cinematic. This feels more internalised and intellectual. It still has caricatures but not quite the same. Like CD had reached a more 'mature' stage?

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Piggywaspushed · 08/11/2020 12:46

Just to clarify, we are reading to the end of Book Two folks for discussion beginning December!

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ChessieFL · 08/11/2020 14:24

Thanks Piggy

DesdamonasHandkerchief · 12/11/2020 17:36

I'm enjoying OMF, to date not as much as Great Expectations or David Copperfield, but that may change as we go on.
I could certainly do without the Twemlow chapters however which still feel like a Dickens parody.
I'm in the same boat as pp Idiom who struggles to stop reading at the designated spot each month. I finished my November chapters some time ago and am now itching to discuss them, however I may have forgotten what I wanted to say by 1st December, I need to learn the art of deferred gratification and spread them out a bit more!

ChessieFL · 12/11/2020 18:04

I always leave reading mine until the end of the month so they’re still fresh in my mind for the discussion. I just have to be careful not to leave it too late so I’m not rushing!

Piggywaspushed · 12/11/2020 18:22

Maybe write your thoughts des and save them?

I did that one month and then copy and pasted them in!

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DesdamonasHandkerchief · 12/11/2020 21:35

Good idea! I should make notes as I'm reading really!

ChessieFL · 29/11/2020 17:33

Nearly finished my chapters for this month, one to go!

FortunaMajor · 29/11/2020 17:39

Did mine today too. Something has happened at last!

Terpsichore · 30/11/2020 13:23

Oh dear, I've definitively fallen off the readalong, I'm afraid. So sorry Piggy but I'm still struggling after bereavement and while I'm getting back to reading I just can't seem to concentrate on anything long and complex.

I promise myself I'll re-read OMF one of these days Sad

Piggywaspushed · 30/11/2020 20:18

Oh , don't worry terpsichore. The business of life and death gets in the way somewhat sometimes. Concentrate on you .

I was just checking in to say I have written my comment already ready to paste in tomorrow at some point. Hopefully I will remember. This thread keeps annoyingly disappearing on me!

I actually wrote stuff happened in my notes Grin

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Piggywaspushed · 01/12/2020 08:56

Well, things did begin to pick up pace, didn’t they? Revelations and intrigue: although sometimes I wasn’t sure who was who enough to be fully intrigued! All these Riderhoods and Weggs and various other supporting cast confuse me. This novel typifies what people mean when they call the dramatis personae of a book or TV series 'Dickensian'!

I have questions… what are Wrayburn’s intentions? Good egg or bad egg? And Mrs Lammle’s change of heart? Have we met the kindly Jewish Riah before? He is an antidote to Fagin, for sure. And , oh, isn’t Headstone deliciously slighted and malicious? He’ll be back. Where has Lizzie gone?

I was sighing at a Veneering chapter but do find its nastiness and bitchiness quite ‘modern and humorous’ in some ways. Like a bitchy it crowd in some TV drama. Still don’t know who most of them are. Like the idea of a WMP , full of self importance, hanging on to her DH's status, like a few MNers I won't mention! I do think the novel has some interesting things to say about women and marriage and proposals of marriage , dependence and independence.

I am proud that I (think I ) spotted Dickens’ offering up a Robert Burns allusion : ‘Say, little feeble grey personage, what thoughts are in thy breast today…?’ Dickens and his words, though! What on earth is ‘deglutition’?? I liked his curly brackets: very whimsical indeed!

I enjoyed this section more. I feel stuff happened.

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ChessieFL · 01/12/2020 13:05

I will be back later today with my thoughts!

InMyOwnParticularIdiom · 01/12/2020 13:14

Yes, we have seen Riah before - he is being exploited by horrid Fledgeby who makes him run a money-lending shop.

I'm glad the true identity of Rokesmith has been revealed, as that seemed so obvious that I didn't see how Dickens could drag the revelation out any longer.

My favourite bit in this segment was the scene where Headstone proposes to Lizzie. It was a masterclass in using language to show character. Headstone was all about showing off how marvellous everyone thinks he is, while deriding Lizzie as his 'ruin' Hmm

FortunaMajor · 01/12/2020 13:25

Drive by comment until I have time later.

The main thing that stood out for me was the attitudes towards marriage and roles of women.

Agree it was about time the biggest plot twist that never was regarding Rokesmith was revealed so things can move forward. It was so heavily hinted it was hanging over the whole book so far.

Hopefully that's all of the characters set up so we can get on with some plot.

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