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50 Book Challenge 2015 Part 4

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southeastdweller · 01/06/2015 22:15

Thread four of the 50 Book Challenge for this year.

The challenge is to read fifty books (or more!) in 2015, though reading fifty isn't mandatory. It's still not too late to join, any type of book can count, and please try to let us all know your thoughts on what you've read.

First thread of the year here, second thread here, and third thread here.

Happy reading Smile

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RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 17/07/2015 19:59

Donna Tartt didn't do a great deal for me tbh - I wouldn't go out of my way to read anything else of hers.

It does amuse me though, that you and I disagree over so many books but both have such an aversion to female writers. We must both have slightly off-kilter brains, but differently skewed! :)

CoteDAzur · 17/07/2015 20:18

Very true. You and I seldom like the same books, but we do seem to hate the same books for the same reasons Grin

ShadowFire · 17/07/2015 21:23

That viral flu in Station 11 sounds improbable. I think I'll take it off my ' to read' wishlist.

Re. women and sci-first - I read a book called "Where Late the Sweet Birds Sang" by Kate Wilhelm last year. One of the more enjoyable post-apocalyptic books I've read recently. Pretty convincing world building IMO. A small community decides to try and save humanity from extinction (through a combination of famine, flu and widespread sterility) by cloning. The first part of the book covers the beginning of the clone experiment, and the second part picks up way in the future, when the clone society is well established.

ladydepp · 18/07/2015 00:25

Are you seriously discounting (almost) all books written by women?? Hmm.

How very sad.

I was going to start a list of great women writers but there is no point, as there are so many I would be here for ages...

ladydepp · 18/07/2015 00:59
  1. Just finished the Collini Case by Ferdinand von Schirach, translated from German. A very short Smile courtroom drama that was quietly compelling. Not much character development but lots of plot. I liked it.
DuchessofMalfi · 18/07/2015 05:11

Just out of interest, and maybe we could have a separate thread about good women writers that we really like, who do you rate, *Lady Depp?

DuchessofMalfi · 18/07/2015 05:14

I could start with - Iris Murdoch, Margaret Drabble, Barbara Pym, , Hilary Mantel.

ChillieJeanie · 18/07/2015 06:23
  1. The Martian by Andy Weir

Mark Watney is stranded on Mars. A storm blew up which necessitated the aborting of the mission he was on, but he was blown away by debris as the crew made their escape to the launch zone. His suit was showing no vital signs so after the commander made an attempt to find him without success she gave the order to leave, and his crewmates believed they were leaving his corpse on the red planet. But he survived, with no way to communicate to earth, a Habitat designed to last 31 days, and a limited food supply. The next mission to Mars isn't due to arrive for another four years...

I was given this one as part of World Book Night, and am pleased to say I really enjoyed it. Some other people in book club who have read it weren't too keen on all the technical detail of what Mark was doing to try and increase the odds of survival, but I found that quite interesting. The book is told largely in the first person, but it also cuts to what is going on at Nasa when they realise from satellite images of the landing site that he is still alive, and also the crew returning to earth.

esiotrot2015 · 18/07/2015 07:14

No 59

A non fiction book to help with my 11 going on 16 ds Grin

Get Out of my life...but first take me and Alex into town

Very helpful best selling survival manual in understanding what the heck is going through their minds Grin and what they do & why

ShakeItOff2000 · 18/07/2015 07:15
  1. Long Way Home by Eva Dolan
    Very good crime novel. A police procedural following the two main protagonists, DI Zigic and DS Ferreira, who head up the Hate Crimes Squad. A man is found burnt in a shed and the story follows the developments in the case.

  2. Beirut, I love you:A Memoir by Zena El Khalil.
    Non-fiction. This memoir is about Zena El Khalil, her family and friends as well as her relationship with Beirut. I remember hearing about Beirut and Lebanon regularly on the news when I was young and thought this would give me some insight. Uh no, Zena is quite the irritating partying negative drama queen. All her relationships are tinged with hysteria. 9/11 and the civil war are briefly mentioned but the book is mainly about her relationships. Would not recommend.

Remus - Thanks for the heads up! I won't be putting Night Watch to the top of my reading list.

I didn't really enjoy Station 11 and was a bit irritated that I spent any money on it all. I laughed at Cote's review - exactly what I thought! Wish I'd read that before I'd bought the book.

As for female writers, surely it's just what you like to read. Everyone is different. In my favourite books of all time there are two female writers: Barabara Demick for Nothing to Envy (excellent non-fiction about North Korea recommended on a thread here a few years ago) and Beloved by Toni Morrison.

tumbletumble · 18/07/2015 07:19

My favourite female authors are: Jane Austen, Margaret Drabble, AS Byatt, Virginia Woolf, Penelope Lively, Anne Tyler, Barbara Kingsolver, Sarah Moss, Donna Tartt and Nancy Mitford.

AnonymousBird · 18/07/2015 08:14
  1. Do No Harm by Henry Marsh (very good)
  2. Moriarty by Anthony Horowitz (good)
  3. Keep your Friends Close by Paula Daly (disappointing).

Onto:

  1. Murder Bag by Tony Parsons (audio)
  2. Man at the Helm by Nina Stibbe
wiltingfast · 18/07/2015 09:38

Cote the "dull whining" is what the book is actually about Grin not the so called apocalypse! Hence my struggle...

Have to disagree on Margaret Atwood also Grin

I guess women tend to write more emotive less derring do type fiction, which I have to say I also enjoy. Jane Smiley is great, AS Byatt too. Kate Atkinson, daphne du maurier, Elizabeth Howard...

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 18/07/2015 10:09

Book 91 The Dawn of the Dreadfuls
The prequel to Pride and Prejudice and Zombies
It's ridiculous, but was just what I needed right now.

Daphne du Maurier - yes! I agree that she is worth a read, although I don't love all of her stuff. I don't think I'd read anything else by Kate Atkinson or Iris Murdoch and I definitely won't read anything else by Hilary Mantel or Sarah Waters.

I might allow Doris Lessing onto a list, but doubt I'll read any more of hers either. I wonder if women maybe do poetry better than novels? It does seem to cut down on the wittering if reduced to 14 lines or so, at least!

ShadowFire · 18/07/2015 10:38

I liked the Elizabeth Moon books I read (science fiction and fantasy).

ladydepp · 18/07/2015 10:59

Off the top of my head, and looking around my bookshelves quickly I would put these women at the top of my list: Hilary Mantel, Barbara Kingsolver, Kate Atkinson, Zadie Smith, Jane Austen, George Eliot, Anne Enright, Lionel shriver, Isabel Allende, Alice Munro, Anne Tyler...

Plus guilty pleasures Jilly Cooper and Kathy Reichs Wink

mmack · 18/07/2015 15:36

Some of my favourite writers are Lionel Shriver, Anne-Marie MacDonald, Anne Tyler, Jane Smiley, Alice Hoffman, Chimamanda Ngozi Adiche, Anne Enright, Joyce Carol Oates, Carol Shields and Jane Urquhart. Do you really not rate any of them?

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 18/07/2015 15:39

Isabel Allende - 'Paula' is sublime, and I enjoyed her other non-fiction stuff too. Her novels got a bit tiresome.

CoteDAzur · 18/07/2015 16:00

Lionel Shriver - read So Much For That. Not bad but not terribly interesting, either.

Kate Atkinson - read Life After Life. Was dull, weak, and rather dumb. Sort of thing my mum would read and find "deep" (apologies to its fans).

Alice Munroe - read Dance Of Happy Shadows or some such. Dullsville, Louisiana. Or something. Very VERY boring everyday stories of people with low socio-economic status.

Hilary Mantel - read Wolf Hall. I couldn't stand its ungrammatical, nonsense style in present tense, and if there was much of a plot, frankly none of it stuck with me. All I know is I'm not touching anything by her ever again.

Margaret Atwood - read Stone Mattess. A collection of half-baked stories about old people that don't go anywhere. Boring. Fantasy elements didn't add anything to the stories.

I haven't read the other authors mentioned on here. I have loved The Luminarirs and The Goldfinch, though, so have to count Donna Tartt and Eleanor Catton among the few female authors I have enjoyed.

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CoteDAzur · 18/07/2015 21:41

"Cote the "dull whining" is what the book is actually about Grin not the so called apocalypse!"

But the whining is all about the apocalypse. The whole book is one big whine about how they no longer have electricity, planes, and especially air conditioning.

wiltingfast · 18/07/2015 23:00

No? Is it?! I seem to recall it was all about the connections between the survivors? Incidental moaning only surely Grin ? !

Secret History is great cote, no idea if you'd like it but if you rated the goldfinch I think that is a great book of hers also.

Loved loved loved life after life, I'll be re reading and I hardly ever do that.

Have to confess I'm a jilly cooper fan too...

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 18/07/2015 23:02

Tbh I'd rather read Jilly Cooper (although haven't read any since I was 15) than Hilary M, Kate Atkinson, Margaret Atwood etc. At least she doesn't take herself too seriously!

DuchessofMalfi · 19/07/2015 09:34
  1. The Outcast by Sadie Jones

At the heart of this novel is a young man, Lewis Aldridge, who we see first as a child. He has been living a quiet, calm and contented life with his mother whilst his father has been away at war (WW2). When his father returns and is back in their lives and assuming the role of head of the house it has an unsettling effect on them and events begin to unfold which have a life long effect on Lewis.

His life spirals out of control, one event following another, to the point where he commits an act so serious that he is sent to prison.

The novel, set in the 1950s gives just the right feel of a tight-knit upper middle class community, with repressed social attitudes. You never know what's going on behind closed doors. A seemingly respectable family is suffering horrifically violent domestic abuse at the hands of the upstanding Church-going father, and are too terrified of losing their social standing ever to admit the shame of their terrible injuries. There's self-harm, alcoholism, under-age sex, buttoned-up repressed emotions, post-traumatic stress, social ostracism, bullying and mental illness. It's all there, in bucket loads. It's full on and doesn't let up all the way through. Emotionally it's quite draining and if you're looking for a happy ending well there's really only a glimmer and it's not that hopeful, if it ever does happen.

I don't think there's a single character who wouldn't have benefitted from counselling or psychotherapy and, in Dicky Carmichael's case, much more.

Yes it's a depressing read, but well worth it. It sounds wrong now to say that I enjoyed it, but it is a good novel, well written. After all no-one would ever read Hardy if happy endings were always required!

CoteDAzur · 19/07/2015 10:07

Meanwhile, I'm reading Into The Wild by Jon Krakauer and it's not living up to my expectations Sad

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