your thoughts, please, on noggin the nog-oh and oliver postgate's autobiography

[FillyjonkthePumpkinEater]

now, I didn't have a tv growing up, so all this bagpuss/clangers business is a bit lost on me, but dp very much into them and I do like the drawings and the welsh accents.

Now

First, has anyone got firsthand experience of this nogmaia business

and second, has anyone read oliver postgate's autobiography, called, I think, "seeing things" and is it any good? Here it is on amazon seeing things

thanks

I have the Complete Clangers on DVD. Naturally.

oooh Graculus, that's it!
Great link rusty, thanks.
Now experiencing Noggin nostalgia - complete DVD (2 of them) is sold online in a few places for around £25-30 if anyone's after it

I really enjoyed Oliver Postgate's biog, although it was a few years ago now that I read it so can't remember it properly! If anyone can find DVDs of Noggin I'd be grateful to know where to get it from - I've been searching for years.

am feeling increasinly strongly that a childhood without tv is not a good thing. it never bothered me until today

have found dvds, they are here

but wtf is the poggles?

ok, honing in now on noggin the nog, nogmania, is that all the books in softcover? or is it some tie in?

Pogles, Filly, not Poggles

Gawd knows what it is, only old people know

Nogmania looks like a book about the Nogs, like a reprised version. The entire collection is here if you are feeling very flush.

But honestly, I would focus your efforts on Bagpuss and the Clangers, they are Top Trumps

oh ROFL at you and your "no tv but dvds" thing.

I mean, what is the difference? Seriously?

(I don't really watch any tv...but am being sucked in by bagpuss. Have spent the afternoon humming the Miller's Song. )

oh has anyone seen a tape/dvd of song from bagpuss?

Yes, here

Seriously? Erm, well, there's all sorts of shit on TV that I don't want to watch. The medium is the same of course and a large part of my reservations are purely about the medium, which is why we don't watch any tv atm, but content will be proportionally more of a concern for me when he is older. There isn't any difference between watching Bagpuss on TV and watching Bagpuss on DVD, of course, except that our laptop hasn't got a CRT and many TVs have, so that would be marginally better I guess...

But I am not sure I have really got what part of it you don't get, so am wittering at random, sorry....

Old people F&Z?? - It was on in 1966, not that I watched it because I was 10 by then but I am not old [very sensitive because of recent 50th birthday emoticon]

Sorry, it was me being deliberately cheeky, rusty

and also trying to be "down wiv da kids" because Filly is a lot younger than me

Dare I ask how the party went?

Not too bad! I think....

RE Indian people in Wales in the 60s and 70s, yes there were indian /pakistani/bangladeshi people there, and a good job too. The valley I grew up in would have been devoid of doctors otherwise!

The accents are quite accurate as well. And good choice of names, Idris the dragon. My SILs father is called Idris. there was an Idwal in it too, and my dad was called Idwal

It's OK about the "old" thing btw - I've just had a few too many "That's your half century then" remarks lately.

In fact the asian children in the school I went too were about the only middle class kids we ever met

(sorry it was just meant to be funny in a rude way - feel free to call me a spinach botherer, or something)

no I guess its that I don't watch any tv, really, the dc watch bits if, say, they are sick, but not routinely, say once a month or something (and actually dd is not fussed anyway). Actually ds only sits still long enough if he is sick . But am loving Bagpuss, it really seems like something that is nice to watch as a family.

I love plays etc, we always do a bunch of puppet shows and so on in london with the dc, so I guess, for me, tv is just like that really, only smaller.

And I do like deconstructing adverts.

I've never really thought about tv cos I am far to disorganised to a. find cbeebies b. find out what time stuff is on at so actually, this is quite a new idea for me-I thought my kids did watch tv! though actually they have only ever seen the odd dvd.

It's fine , don't worry

were there, mb?

in the top left hand corner of wales?

I stand completely corrected then.

MB but were there faintly amusing Indian elephant trainers, that is the question?

(because of course we demand authenticity in a series which featured singing trains, talking dragons and someone called Mrs Porty)

Anyway here are the Pogles in all their (black and white) glory

Well it is how it affects them physically that bothers me the most, Filly

I won't go all Steiner on you but can recommend books if you want more info

Anyway we don't watch anything at the moment - the theory is no tv before 7, but as dp points out "he won't want to watch Bagpuss when he is 7". Can't see why not, myself, but there you go...

He has however watched a bit of YouTube and was very taken with Mud singing Tiger Feet. He has had an entire branch of Sainsburys in fits by singing "THAT'S NEAT THAT'S NEAT THAT'S NEAT THAT'S NEAT I REALLY LOVE YOUR TIGER FEET" with exceptional clarity and volume

An ex bf liked them a lot rusty, they always looked twee and odd to me (probably how Clangers etc look if you haven't been brought up with them)