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I'm over 50 Always loved Jane Austen , but now on re-reading ..

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Laska42 · 26/11/2014 19:11

I'm thinking Marianne Dashwood is just a spoilt unrealistic and totally stupid brat.. I want to slap her!
Ok rant over ..

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Cupcakemum79 · 05/12/2014 14:36

Emma in my opinion is one of the least likeable main characters of Jane Austen. Tobe so cruel and short-sighted as to humiliate poor Miss Bates. And to play games with other people like that. She's so spoilt.. but maybe that's the lesson we're supposed to take fom this novel?

The character to get the worst deal must be Charlotte Lucas and all she's ever done is be plain and not born rich. She's intelligent and has got dtermination to get the best out of life, even if it's by being married to Mr. Collins. To be fair, there must be women around nowadays who make the same kind of decision. But Jane Austen could have been a bit nicer to her. Why would she be so cruel? Just to make a point about the position of woemn in society, or does it show a meaner side to Austen's character?

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 05/12/2014 16:20

Austen, in Emma, deliberately set out to create, "A heroine whom no one but myself will much like." She's rich, spoilt, conceited, arrogant and that is the point. She has to learn, change, develop in order to 'win' Mr Knightley. Again, unlike Fanny Price, she develops as a character and is forced to realise that she has behaved like a fool - and in doing so, realises she nearly lost the person who she hadn't even realised she loved.

And I don't think that she is particularly mean to Charlotte. Charlotte makes a prudent and pragmatic decision to marry an idiot for security. However, although she mocks the 'courtship' of the couple, she doesn't mock Charlotte once she's married. Instead she shows that Charlotte has made the situation work for her, and, indeed, seems to at least somewhat, admire the way that Charlotte has managed to establish herself in a comfortable home but has orchestrated it that she can avoid her pompous idiot of a husband much of the time! I like Charlotte more on each re-read tbh, but I like her even better as a zombie, in the parody. Grin

Cooroo · 08/12/2014 22:22

Emma is my favourite novel. I love Austen's humour, it drives me mad when adaptations don't stick to her narrative - why re-write perfection? The agony into which Emma is plunged after the disastrous day out to Box Hill is so true, so painful. Haven't we all said something we regret? And tried to justify ourselves and just looked worse? And after the long dark night, day breaks, Mr Knightley is hers. Perfect. Especially when read by Prunella Scales who must be channelling Jane herself.

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