Disgusted with myself, kick up the arse needed

[whymewhyme]

I know I over eat, I know I'm the heaviest I've been in years. I can not afford to be over weight.

I'm 5'1 and weigh 10st 10lbs.... I've not stopped eating and it's only 11 am.... I've been up since 4am with the 15 minth old, I'm now at work till 5.

Today I've eaten
Big bowl of Frosties
X2 weetabix
Tuna sandwich ( won't have time later)
Wotsits
Little bag if animal biscuits
X3 digestives
3 cuppas with x2 sugar.

I've just sat here and thought what a greedy cow I am. I am alllllway starving!

I've just given myself a kick up thr arse, I weighted myself, did my bmi....28.3 so high end of over weight. I've downloaded my fitness pal and entered all that I've eaten. They target set is 1200....I'm- 245 and I've got to have my tea tonight.

I've no reason to post on here other than to out myself at greedy.

Im 5ft1 and was a size 14/16 (not sure of weight as never weighed myself). I'm now a 6. I started dieting after seeing a picture of me on holiday. That was my kick start.
I do calorie counting and IF (even now to maintain). The fasting has helped because I found after the first two weeks I wasn't hungry and realised that once I started eating I couldn't stop. The documenting calories helped me realise how many were in certain foods and helped me cut down on portion size and ask did I really need it.
I think everyone's different but finding a way to eat for the rest of your life is easier to maintain than diets that once you fall off the wagon you give up (that mindset help me change my diet). I count my calories over a week rather than a day so if I have a bad day it doesn't matter I just reduce my calories on other days. You can do it if you find something that fits in with your lifestyle (and doesn't make life difficult). I still eat the same foods with my family just portion controlled amounts. I think making separate meals would make my life harder. Organisation is what helps me long term (meal planning and an online food shop).

I have a 14 month old and am trying to loose the 2 stone of baby weight so I know how hard it is. I used to have a snack if he woke up in the night. Thankfully he’s sleeping through mostly now so i don’t eat biscuits at 2am🙈

You should try and eat more protein to stay fuller for longer. No wonder you are always starving as most of what you’ve eaten is just sugar.

Can I gently suggest that all the sugar you are eating is probably making it very difficult to control your appetite. A bowl of frosties will send your blood sugar shooting up then crashing down. So then you get the urge to eat to raise it again. But everything your eating is high carbs (sugar) so your blood sugar is going up and down like a yo-yo. It would be much easier to control your appetite if you eat foods that don't have such an extreme affect on your blood sugar. For example, you could probably have a big bowl of full fat greek yoghurt with fresh fruits and nuts and seed, and it would be less calories than your frosties but because it won't send you blood sugar haywire, you probably won't want to eat again until lunch.

Don't beat yourself up, it's not easy!

Can you do any meal prep in the evenings? Overnight oats, prep fruit and veg to snack on, make a giant batch of couscous salad with chickpeas and feta?

Make it as easy as possible to make high fibre, high protein choices. Greek yogurt with raspberries, seeds and a drizzle of honey is a good snack and delicious.

I also found I had to designate food that was for me and not for me to stop the snacking. I buy tiny packets of sweets to give me my fix and to stop the grazing. Sugar free sweets you can suck can also help.

I saw advice that said if you have a craving first have a big drink, then move your body and then check back in.

So far today you have eaten (assuming cow's milk)

Sugary carbs, bit of protein plus sugar from milk
More carbs with some fibre, bit of protein plus protein and sugar from milk
Carbs with possible some fibre, protein from tuna (fat if you use butter and/or mayo)
Carbs and fat
Carbs, fat and sugar
Carbs, more fat and sugar.
More sugar

No fruit, no veg, very little protein or fibre.

A small serving of frosties is 30g of carbs and 13g of sugar, burns off so fast and makes you hungrier after a sugar crash.
Oat bran takes 2 or 3 mins in the microwave for breakfast. Or have two bowls of wheat biscuits.

Keep berries and chopped up veg in the fridge and eat them instead when you're up at 4am. And instead of biscuits and crisps.
If you really need the sweet fill - fibre one doughnut, nakd bar, protein bar. They carry the calories but at least have protein and fibre too. Plus most are quite sickly so you will eat less of them.

Add lettuce, cucumber, cherry tomato or grated cheese to your sandwich. Yogurt instead of mayo. Easy to chop or can be bought shredded/grated already.

Give it a week and see if you have more energy and are less hungry.

It's a battle. You don't need to starve yourself to lose weight though. You will not miss the carbs after a while if you limit them.

You can do it OP. It’s not easy and a constant challenge if you’re naturally inclined to eat sugar, but it is doable.

I echo advice already given. Look at reducing sugar and processed carbs and eat lots of protein, fruit, veg and non processed carbs. It sounds like a cliche, but if you’re eating well you won’t feel hungry all the time. You don’t need to starve yourself that just leads to binge eating. Slow and steady weight loss with a small calorie deficit each day will make you feel like a new person. Good luck.

Stop beating yourself up OP.
get a big bin liner and get rid of all the crap. Ok today you ate it, that can’t be changed so make that the last time.

@whymewhyme

You had, this morning

Big bowl of Frosties

Wotsits

Little bag if animal biscuits

X3 digestives

3 cuppas with x2 sugar.

Sugar addiction? What is going on in your life?

Craving sweet food has become a socially acceptable smokescreen for a desire for ‘sweetness’ in other forms, whether it’s stress relief, comfort, reward, overcoming tiredness, or prolonging a celebration.

https://www.diabetes.org.uk/living-with-diabetes/eating/food-psychology/emotional-eating-and-feasting

Does this resonate, at all, @whymewhyme?

also eta; please do not be disgusted, could you take a step and eliminate some of the sugar?

It's not you - it's the 'food' (or more specifically the stuff they put in food to make it delicious and addictive.)

Frosties are literally designed to make you eat more. They feel silky and tasty and crunchy and delicious.
Same with wotsits - that feel and that flavour - it's all fake, it makes you gorge and want more and more food because all the nutrition your body gets is a sad little starch puff.
Weetabix - these are okay.
Tuna sandwich - is it a shop bought one? If so, again, there's stuff in it to make you crave the food - it makes it feel more luxurious than it is. The fake bread has sugar and preservatives and flavourings, the mayonnaise feels silky so your body things 'great! nutritious fat!'
Animal biscuits - same. They've got things like flavourings and emulsifiers, all stuff that's designed to make you find them addictive, eat more and then buy more.

Anything where a company is making 'food' - their ENTIRE reason for being is profit. Kellogs doesn't exist to nourish you, Kellogs exists to make a profit. So they want you to eat more. So they will make products that make you eat more.

The best tactic I ever found for taking control of my eating (for me it was binge eating) was starting to eat only things I'd cooked from scratch.

Omg this is me, when my LB wakes at 1ish I have a digestive.

There's some great advice on here so thank you!

I think the problem is I'm absolutely knacked and I'm eating for energy it's obviously bad energy. Lb wakes at 4am every morning. He goes back to sleep but that's it then I am awake, even if my partner sorts him out.

I also do feel like im addicted which sound utterly stupid.

I think when I get chance tonight I'm going to sit down look at some recipes of what we can all have at the same time and write a shopping list.

Do i need to avoid pasta and rice?

Swap them for quinoa if you can eat the stuff or make sure it's high quality brown rice and wholewheat pasta. They will give you longer laster energy.

@YehThoughtSo Makes such a difference once you can break the habit. Things I used to crave taste like the crap they are now. Cadbury probably has helped by making chocolate so disgusting now too!

Mounjaro. Use the suppressed appetite to relearn good healthy eating habits. It’s a game changer.

OPs BMI is below 30. WLI aren't the first solution.

You're tired and craving sugar.

You have been up since 4am and now doing a full day's work. How much sleep are you getting?

Is there any way you can share the early mornings ie your partner do some? You might already be doing that. Will your 15 month old go back to sleep for a while? 4am is too early.

If you're less exhausted you'll probably crave less of an energy boost.

The only way I can loose weight is to reduce sugar and carbs and calorie count using an app. I'm useless otherwise.

I also buy in healthier food that ie enjoy so it feels like a treat. I love smoked salmon. I like a salad with lots of different things like edamme beans, sunflower seeds, rocket, spicy beetroot, a posh salad dressing etc. It feels like a restaurant salad rather than a few slices or cucumber and a tomato on a plate.

If you're up early and snacking why not go out for a walk with your little one before work. It will be easier as the weather improves but a bit of fresh air and exercise would reduce the snacking cravings and do you good.

Every single thing you've eaten, apart from the tuna in the tuna sandwich is total crap. That will be contributing to constantly feeling hungry.
You should switch to eating whole foods (real food) to balance your blood sugar and keep cravings at bay.

Moujaro isn't somthing I'm keen on doing tbh, ii have a friend who has been terribly unwell on it and as soon as she stopped she piled the weigh back on, quicker than she gained it before.

Totally understand your reluctance but I wouldn’t rule them out- check out the WLI threads- it’s literally changed people’s lives in ways they never expected. It’s something to consider- simply because it will more or less immediately relieve you of the sugar cravings and help realign your relationship to food and sugar addiction.

People tend to regain the weight if they haven’t taken the opportunity to eat nutritious food and cut out their upf addiction. It’s not a cure but it’s definitely a tool not to be dismissed as an alternative to struggling with the difficulty traditional dieting can be.

I get it - I also used to slip into the sugar/carb thing because when you’re in the thick of it with small kids, it’s so much easier just to grab something fast and easy…..which does the job in the moment, but then the blood sugar crash comes and I’d be starving again and eat the same stuff again.
My DCs are a little older now, so I have a bit more time to think about it!
I’ve found that when I’m craving something sweet mid-morning, an individual yoghurt, like an Activia satisfies the sweet craving but also keeps me fuller than a couple of biscuits would.
At lunchtimes, I’ll still have a sandwich but I’ll cram as much mixed salad leaves as I can in it along with the main filling, and by the time I’ve eaten that, I’ve got no room left for the mountain of crisps I’d have had with the sandwich before.
Small changes, but it’s made a difference for me. Is my diet the pinnacle of health? No. Have I morphed into a gym girlie? Also no 🫠😂
But small food adjustments and getting out for a walk, or walking to the playground with my youngest DC a few times a week has made a massive difference to how I feel overall. I’ve got more energy, and I no longer feel that horrible mid-afternoon slump because I’m having yet another sugar crash.

Frosties are TOO addictive! If I had them in the house, I'd eat the whole packet.

Stop having them in the house, biscuits too. Hopefully if you live with a partner they can get on board and support you with changing the food shop.

I found that intermittent fasting works. You can get an app for it. Or you can just say you're doing 10:14, and stop eating at 9pm, and don't eat anything before 11am. It's hard the first few days, but your body will get used to it. Might be a good shout if you're prone to eating too much before 11am.

If you're really craving pasta, then have some. If you get yourself a julienne peeler (oxo do a good one) you can do half and half spaghetti with julienned courgette - once the sauce is on you don't notice the courgettes but it's lower in calories and giving you fibre and other nutrients.

My DC never noticed they ate wholemeal spaghetti, so a very easy swap!

You don't need to use WLI, your BMI is under 30.

It's hard work with a baby and instant energy craving and easy to grab food is your main issue. Not to mention a lack of sleep.

Even if you did qualify for prescription, you'd still have to make the changes to your diet. No one should be rushing to take WLI for a few pounds without making changes first or one they stop the weight will pile back on.

They also don't work for everyone and you just need to look at the threads on here to see many people are exhausted on WLI.