Still no weight loss !

[Dinkiedoo]

Still not losing weight !
Im on a healthy eating plan. Stopped alcohol Snacks etc..
Have not lost any weight since October.
I exercise and drink plenty of water
My health coach says its a plateau and Im doing all the right things but its so frustrating

I don’t eat out if I’m tracking for weight loss- I just eat the same thing day in day out. Very boring, but much easier to manage - especially when I had to lose a big chunk for IVF!

Maintaining my weight now… if I eat out I’ll just have a small breakfast - 2 eggs and a bell pepper or 30g slice of homemade bread with 45g avocado. No deviations.

I'm so glad that worked/works for you @RazzleDazz1e but I'd be bored after two days and my family certainly wouldn't want to eat the same food day in day out. It would be entirely counterproductive for me.

I am the same. To be honest, when I am not trying to lose weight, I eat the same foods every day. Food is just energy for me and I hate cooking. I gain weight because I am too lazy to make anything that doesn't go in the toaster 😂

Very boring, but that’s my way… so long as one is in a calorie deficit i.e negative energy balance weight will be lost. You can of course eat different foods every day but need to ruthlessly track.

@Vegetus i don’t understand the point you are trying to make are we posting at cross purposes? I am not a keto person I don’t advocate for NO carbs but firstly, starchy carb based meals are not good for people with pre-diabetes due to how the body converts them and secondly, satiation in a calorie deficit is pretty important, I don’t know why you are downplaying it?

if people want to eat pasta every dinner time then do, but it’s such a pointless, low nutrition choice its not for me thanks. It has no vitamins in it, no health benefits I will stick with a green veg substitute!!

This thread became difficult to follow but if I have understood correctly that OP is pre-diabetic then she needs to go low carb as well as counting calories and should probably follow Micheal Moseley's methods to avoid full-blown type 2 diabetes.

@Vegetus

If someone says "you're eating too many carbs" then they don't know what they're talking about

Seriously?! And you're someone who offered to coach the OP?!

Of course, no-one can say to the exact gram how many carbs someone is eating, as the number of carbs is never posted on a restaurant menu, unlike the calorie count which is shown on some menus (those of restaurants, cafes and takeaways that employ more than 250 people). However, if someone has posted their daily menu showing that they're eating porridge, bread, pasta and lots of fruit, then of course we can say they're eating too many carbs - if they're diabetic and/or trying to lose weight.

Yes it is. Restaurants, cafes and takeaways that employ more than 250 people have to display the calorie counts on their menus. No exemption for London restaurants.

Maybe she's eating too much fat? Too much protein? We don't know as we haven't been given anything to go off other than she chooses meals from a recipe book.

40g oats
2 slices of bread
150g cooked pasta
100g Grapes and an apple

That's perfectly normal but in this weird Mumsnet world where carbs are the devil I'm sure you'd say that's a one way ticket to obesity and diabetes.

Oats, fruit, regular ass white bread and pasta are all fine and perfectly healthy if consumed in reasonable quantities. Stop demonizing food

You clearly don't understand the role that excess refined carbohydrate plays in weight gain and diabetes then. I will absolutely demonize excess consumption of those especially for someone who is trying to lose weight and is diabetic/pre-diabetic.

Where on this thread has she said she's diabetic? We don't even know what her starting weight is. All we've been told is she isn't losing weight.

I was referring generally to the diabetes/pre-diabetes risk, to explain why I've said what I said about carbohydrate.

So of no relevance here then...

<sigh>

It's an explanation.

@Vegetus its not recommended for diabetics or pre diabetics to eat a lot of starchy carbs. There is plenty of info on this. It’s not demonising food but I already commented that there are not a great deal of beneficial nutrients in white pasta apart from energy anyway.

Starchy carbs for a healthy, non overweight or obese person are also fine in moderation but the OP was saying she has high cholesterol, prediabetes and wants to lose weight. Swapping to entirely Wholegrain items would be a good start because then at least you are getting some fibre too and other benefits.

Carbs are not ‘bad’ as a stand-alone part of your diet but the ones we are talking about are usually refined and over processed with added sugars that can contribute to over eating due to the fact they don’t fill you up for long (and the added sugars). I don’t know what kind of porridge OP is eating, but almost all the ones i see in a supermarket have things added into them and especially the little quick packet ones. You need to know how to look for the best things to eat. I for instance choose orzo if I have pasta as it’s Wholegrain and low GI.

I don’t see anyone here advocating keto just swapping pasta and bread for other, better options? You can eat eggs without bread in an omelette. OP in her other thread was swapping an egg for the bread, you could add in some meat, veg and have the same outcome in calories and be filler for longer?

@Vegetus the other thread actually. High cholesterol and pre diabetic. We did look first

Okay great, sorry I missed that.

So my opinion is now slightly different.

We know most of the improvement in hb1ac and blood lipids come about through reduction in body fat alone regardless of diet, is low carb a little bit better? Maybe, the studies aren't that compelling. What she needs is a weight loss diet she can adhere too and that alone will improve all the blood markers. If it's low carb, vegan, carnivore it doesn't matter we just need a fat loss programme we can stick with long term.

Calories equated they're all much of a muchness in regards to blood marker improvement.

"Yes it is. Restaurants, cafes and takeaways that employ more than 250 people have to display the calorie counts on their menus. No exemption for London restaurants."

The majority of independent restaurants in London employ less than 250 people.. I have never seen calories listed on a menu.

Well, by definition, if they're independent then they won't be employing 250 people, will they?!

Update : have tried no carbs for a few weeks as well as Orlistat.
I had eggs for breakfast with one slice of bacon and some veg....spinach or peppers.
Lunch salad
Dinner chicken or fish with veg.
Have lost 1kg !
Im seeing GP again in April but dont think she can offer me more than the Orlistat.
I exercise every day too.

But why the Orlistat? If you're going to go low carb (not no carb, as you need veg, and there are carbs in veg - which you are eating), then you should be eating a high fat diet. Orlistat is for low fat diets.

I'm confused about what kind of plan you think you are following!

The diet Im following ....South Beach allows veg
Orlistat is not for low fat diets. It stops you absorbing a third of the fat you eat

Have you calculated your TDEE?

Edit: I can't re-read the whole thread right now but check @shearwater2 's post on page 1 regarding TDEE.

You're meant to follow a low fat diet so you don't have the side effects such as shitting yourself. The fat still goes somewhere and if it isn't being absorbed it passes through the GI tract quickly.