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I only lose weight if I starve myself!!

148 replies

Nowanextraone · 15/07/2023 13:47

Hi everyone, I am 40 years old and have been working hard to lose weight.
I started off on Ozempic but now can't can't hold of it.

Anyway, during the first 6 weeks of ozempic I hardly ate and lost over 1 stone very quickly.

Now I can't get hold of it, I have been using my fitness pal and 100% stuck to my calories and I just don't lose weight. If I go for the odd meal out, I put on 3lbs and then it takes me a week to get it off again, and I just don't ever lose.

I guess its better than gaining it, but seriously, I'm so miserable.

I am 13 stone 13 so still have alot of weight to lose (I'm 5 foot 5). I stick religiously to 1500 calories a day and don't add any extra on for exercise.

I am going away in 6 weeks and really thought I'd be down another stone.

Is it my age?! When I only eat 800/900 calories a day, it falls off me. But that's not sustainable. Mind you, I'd be willing to do it if I have to

OP posts:
Vegetus · 16/07/2023 08:52

36 hours of fasting and eating very little every other day is literally putting yourself in what I would assume is a very hefty calorie deficit over a week.

All I'm saying is if you've ever lost weight following any diet it wasn't due to any other factor than you were expending more calories than you consumed.

N0ëlle · 16/07/2023 09:04

@vegetus, you're living in the 80s. Laxatives and cigarettes work well for weight loss too, right, but health matters, to most of us.

Fasting resets insulin resistance whereas eating meagre rations day after day tells your metabolism that it's in tough times, so it adapts. There's more to it than just fewer calories in the week.

It's healthier to fast for 36 hours and then eat healthy real food to satiety. There's a whole lot of new information out there and you seem determined to refer only to diet books from the 70s.

If COCO works for you currently and that's your religion, fine. Health and longevity is what matters most to me now.

Menora · 16/07/2023 09:24

I honestly think I might expire if I didn’t eat for 36 hours. I would probably have a migraine and I don’t know how I would focus at work

Fasting isn’t magic, metabolism doesn’t have a clock on it in this way fasting is not on its own ever been proven to lead to weight loss unless you create a calorie deficit. Your body knows when it’s awake and it’s asleep but it doesn’t know it’s 11am or 8pm it just knows you are awake. Fasting and losing weight is just creating a calorie deficit. You could fast for 3 days and then eat a load of fast foods you probably wouldn’t lose as much weight if any. Ask anyone who has been a binge eater (me) this method really shouldn’t be recommended it sounds dangerous. Binge eaters also fast when they are in restrict mode and it doesn’t lead to weight loss long term because it’s about calories

CarolDunne · 16/07/2023 09:36

The only way I lose weight (48, 5ft 3, 12 st)

Is eating 1600 calories a day
100g grams of protein
Full fat youhurt butter
No processed food
3 ltrs of water

10 mins daylight as soon as I wake up
No coffee until i have eaten something

Breakfast/lunch/dinner

As a life long veggie it was a hard starting to get that amount of protein

But my god, I am losing a 0.5/1lb a week (not linearly but still)

Sugar cravings have vanished
I have started to recognise the feelings of being hungry and Full

FYI it is impossible to put on 3lb after one meal out. It is just the food in your gut and water retention

Cozytoesandtoast00 · 16/07/2023 09:44

I have to eat very little to lose too.
I used Ozempic (was 13 stone and went down to 10.5 stone)
I then stopped and put on half a stone.
The only way I can maintain is by using intermittent fasting, which is going well for me and I'm maintaining at 11stone.
I would like to lose another stone but will have to drastically cut down calories to do so. I'm getting mentally prepped to do so in September.

isthesolution · 16/07/2023 09:50

Fast? Eat in a 6 hour window each day.

It's frustrating but you've got to put less in and exercise more.

Twiglets1 · 16/07/2023 09:50

CarolDunne · 16/07/2023 09:36

The only way I lose weight (48, 5ft 3, 12 st)

Is eating 1600 calories a day
100g grams of protein
Full fat youhurt butter
No processed food
3 ltrs of water

10 mins daylight as soon as I wake up
No coffee until i have eaten something

Breakfast/lunch/dinner

As a life long veggie it was a hard starting to get that amount of protein

But my god, I am losing a 0.5/1lb a week (not linearly but still)

Sugar cravings have vanished
I have started to recognise the feelings of being hungry and Full

FYI it is impossible to put on 3lb after one meal out. It is just the food in your gut and water retention

What’s the thinking behind no coffee until you’ve eaten something please?

violinviolet · 16/07/2023 09:55

Weigh everything it's the only way you will know about portion sizes.

L1R876 · 16/07/2023 09:59

I couldn't eat full fat everything. I can't stomach it and it also gives me heartburn/indigestion!

LovelyGirlsCompetition · 16/07/2023 10:05

Me too. Only lose through skipping meals and exercising three or four times a week for at least an hour, eating probably no more than 800 or 900 calories per day. It makes me really sad but nothing else works. When people mention I’ve lost weight I just have to bite my tongue as I really don’t feel it’s a compliment when it’s such a relentless awful slog. Dread what’s going to happen if and when I stop being so restrictive. Thyroid is ok so not that. Just reaching out so you know you’re not alone x

LadyBird1973 · 16/07/2023 10:07

Davinia Taylor has written a good book on balancing hormones. I think this might be important if you are perimenopausal.
The gist is that you have to eat as cleanly as possible - get rid of sugar/artificial sweeteners and eat food that helps support your body to make the hormones you need to function properly.

N0ëlle · 16/07/2023 11:45

Fasting is not recommended for people with a history of EDs

I must google davina taylor's book.

L1R876 · 16/07/2023 11:46

@LadyBird1973 yes. She did lose a lot of weight doing that. I was amazed at the difference!!!

Vegetus · 16/07/2023 12:29

N0ëlle · 16/07/2023 09:04

@vegetus, you're living in the 80s. Laxatives and cigarettes work well for weight loss too, right, but health matters, to most of us.

Fasting resets insulin resistance whereas eating meagre rations day after day tells your metabolism that it's in tough times, so it adapts. There's more to it than just fewer calories in the week.

It's healthier to fast for 36 hours and then eat healthy real food to satiety. There's a whole lot of new information out there and you seem determined to refer only to diet books from the 70s.

If COCO works for you currently and that's your religion, fine. Health and longevity is what matters most to me now.

All the popular people who promote fasting vastly sex up the data or just outright lie. I've got no issue with fasting in itself if it works for you crack on, But all you're really doing is limiting your intake of calories.

Nobody I know who is worth listening too in this field promotes meagre rations or VLCD.

It sounds to me like you've watched a few quacks on YouTube like Fung, glucose goddess and Tim Spectre and have bought in all wholesale to their ideas.

L1R876 · 16/07/2023 12:32

@Vegetus Michael Moseley and his wife have stated that fasting is good for health. It helps to promote longevity and also allows for the body to actually recover. There is also a lot of research into fasting that can help people put T2 diabetes in remission. I agree that it is just calorie restriction, but for some people, it may help with over all health as well.

Itisyourturntowashthebath · 16/07/2023 12:50

@Vegetus if Prof Tim Spector is a quack, can you suggest some one else with a longer history of research.

Kafkaland · 16/07/2023 13:07

HairyKitty · 15/07/2023 15:29

If you go on here it will calculate maintenance calories for you. https://tdeecalculator.net/result.php?s=imperial&g=female&age=40&lbs=203&in=65&act=1.2&f=2

At 14st even sedentary in an office job the maintenance intake is way over what you think you are eating. How about you don’t restrict too much or go hungry but weigh and record every single thing for one week.

I'm not sure this can be accurate because it doesn't account for metabolism?

Mine comes out at 1800 calories per day which would be waaaay too much even though my metabolism is good. Maybe just because I am taller than average?

Theredjellybean · 16/07/2023 13:14

I would suggest you do a few days of weighing and measuring absolutely everything....i used to think i used about 100mls of milk over the course of a day in my 5-6 coffees, i dont like them milky !
I used to knock 50 cals off my MFP daily allowance for milk...one day i measured the tiny splash i put in my coffee and found it was nearly 100 mls ....gulp...so now i measure out every splash used and count them all.
ditto fruit....my apple was much bigger than a medium one as allowed on mfp..so double the calories
it all adds up
most of us wildly underestimate calories in what we eat

continentallentil · 16/07/2023 13:17

pepino · 15/07/2023 15:05

If you're losing weight at 800 cal but not 1500kcal then you don't need 1500kcal! You need to either increase the amount of calories you're burning and/or reduce the amount you're consuming.

It’s a lot more likely the OP is overestimating what she’s eating.

CornishGem1975 · 16/07/2023 13:31

The only way I can lose weight is sticking rigidly to 1000-1200 calories per day.

LadyBird1973 · 16/07/2023 13:35

Re fasting, can't remember where I read it but apparently the research was done on men rather than women and I think there was a suggestion that it might not be the best option for us. But obviously does work in that it reduces overall calorie consumption

N0ëlle · 16/07/2023 16:39

There is research that disagrees with whatever research disagrees with fasting. I dont want to persuade other people to fast because I know it's not easy. I don't do it several times a week, far from it.

pintery · 16/07/2023 18:02

Every single person who says CICO is defunct is a quack or stupid.

😂😂 moronic

Have a look at the biog of Tim Spector. I presume your understanding of metabolism and the processes of the gut is far greater?

www.kcl.ac.uk/people/professor-tim-spector

CarolDunne · 16/07/2023 21:12

Twiglets1 · 16/07/2023 09:50

What’s the thinking behind no coffee until you’ve eaten something please?

Its to do with lowering cortisol levels

L1R876 · 16/07/2023 21:15

Caffeine helps to burn fat? Doesn't it? So surely you'd want a coffee

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