I only lose weight if I starve myself!!

[Nowanextraone]

Hi everyone, I am 40 years old and have been working hard to lose weight.
I started off on Ozempic but now can't can't hold of it.

Anyway, during the first 6 weeks of ozempic I hardly ate and lost over 1 stone very quickly.

Now I can't get hold of it, I have been using my fitness pal and 100% stuck to my calories and I just don't lose weight. If I go for the odd meal out, I put on 3lbs and then it takes me a week to get it off again, and I just don't ever lose.

I guess its better than gaining it, but seriously, I'm so miserable.

I am 13 stone 13 so still have alot of weight to lose (I'm 5 foot 5). I stick religiously to 1500 calories a day and don't add any extra on for exercise.

I am going away in 6 weeks and really thought I'd be down another stone.

Is it my age?! When I only eat 800/900 calories a day, it falls off me. But that's not sustainable. Mind you, I'd be willing to do it if I have to

That posted before I finished.

If you think that all calories are equal you lack fundamental education on metabolism.

Good for you. You're still wrong though.

I’m finding that as well. I won’t lose if I eat 1500 a day. Maybe that’s the amount some people need to function

Please explain how I am wrong.

In my view you are wrong because the impact of eating different types of the same number of calories is NOT that they won’t cause the exact same weight gain or loss, because in a pure sense they would.

The point I think you are trying to make is that the same amounts of different calorie types WILL affect satiety, perception of hunger, perception of deprivation (both physiological and psychological) etc and thus will affect how many ADDITIONAL calories we then eat in the day.

Higher UPF/carb heavy/nutrient poor foods result in additional consumption over and above the same number of calories of calorie dense foods.

What you eat is important for health but matters very little to fat loss, it's an energy balance equation as I'm sure you know as a clinical nutritionist.

For satiety reasons it's better to eat whole foods but diet fatigue can quickly set in if someone deprives themselves of things they actually like and want to eat.

TEF is obviously a thing and I do eat a high protein diet because I'm trying to build slabs of muscle but the normal person only needs to get at least 15% of their macros from each of Protein, fats and carbs. How they split them up isn't really important as long as the lower level for any of the 3 is 15%.

Majority of the studies show low carb diets perform slightly worse but the difference is negligible. At the end of the day the best weight loss diet is one that they can adhere to the longest and get the most enjoyment from.

Unless you actually mean literally @LMNT in which case please explain how you are right

Also what does protein deficient vegans have to do with this particular topic?

Vegans are at risk from a few deficiencies without adequate supplementation but protein deficiency isn't usually one. You'd have to work hard to not consume enough unless these vegans were basing their entire diet around oreos.

1500 calories is obviously your maintenance, you need to only eat 1000.

but… you could try Berberine as it also helps manage your blood sugar levels.

Oh and LMNT is correct. Eat real food, no grains and as much protein and good fats (like avocados, fish and olive oil) as you can.

I'd take a long view here. Your body wont lose weight if it doesn't feel safe. Stick with 1500 per day for a while, no processed food, as little sugar as possible. Just focus on health. In fact, if you get to the end of the day and you have undereaten kind of by accident, push up your intake with some walnuts or something like that, 2 squares of lindt 90%, or a glass of plain kefir.

When your body has received the message that it's ok out there in the world, then try to eat 1600 every second day and 800 every second day. If the weight doesn't drop off you, pm me and I'll give you your money back.

Hi, I'm really interested in what you've said. My diet quality is pretty poor. Please could you share more or point me in the direction of more info?

I am T1 diabetic and have been since I was 2 years old BTW. Very well controlled

Fuck sake, there is NOTHING wrong with grains. Your body will regulate your blood sugar just fine unless you're diabetic.

Unless she's a sedentary 70 year old woman of 5ft her maintenance calories are not 1500.

Really interesting, thank you. Hopefully I won't need to PM you hahah

I am T1 diabetic 🤣🤣🤣🤣 but my control is really good as I have all the latest technology and can eat what I like as long as its carb counted

@Vegetus ypure utterly wrong and lacking in understanding of the physiology of metabolism.

Calories in calories out is a defunct, gross oversimplification of how our bodies work. Your education is at least 15 years out of date.

Your body processes macronutrients (carbs, fat and protein) wholly differently down to the enzymes and hormones needed for digestion.

Eating 100 calories from a rice cake is utterly different to 100 calories from a piece of cheese. They’re digested differently, trigger different hormones and have a different impact on blood sugar and insulin. They have a different impact on cholesterol and the absorption of nutrients.

The TEFF is different depending on the macronutrients, you’re more insulin sensitive in the morning and TEFF will raise metabolism more in the morning meaning a breakfast of protein will keep you fuller for longer than a breakfast with carbs. The exact same meal will have a difference metabolic impact depending on the time of day you eat it.

What you eat is more important because of the knock on effect of blood sugar and insulin. If you start the day with protein and fat you’ll naturally eat less later in the day.

Absolutely this is obviously true and it's surprising that people still argue it out.

I'm another shorty, 156c,m and I do not need whatever the calculators tell me I need, if I eat good food, it fills me up. It can be hard to stick to sometimes but mostly it's not. Bread and pasta and white rice don't work for me. Although I do have sushi once a week for the iodine as high iodine levels are linked to low incidence of breast cancer. I find that if every single choice I make is real food. Fish, chicken, avocados, nuts, leeks, mushrooms, olive oils, chick peas, tuna, sardines, then I am not hungry. I mix a bit of soya yogurt with a bit of natural kefir to bring down the overall sugar percentage, so, low sugar but not no sugar.
If you eat this way, you're not going to be starving.

I think I saw once on you tube that the old calories in calories out should be changed to glucagon on insulin down without understanding all of the science, that has really worked for me.

Like PP I expect you may not be accurately tracking cals. I tried to lose a couple of stone for years after DD was born, but being honest after equalising weekend treats and weekday starvation, I wasn't in enough of a deficit. Just lost and gained the same 7lb. Then I had a massive heartbreak 3 months ago and 3 stone came off real quick because I could only eat about 500 cal a day without being sick every day. I'd rather be fatter and happier than how I am now, but I learned what my threshold is to lose weight quickly.

I am doing Ozempic and fast 800 which is working well. Fast 800 works well by itself too. The food is delish, healthy and plentiful

I said it above too but I am am T1 diabetic. Does this have an impact? I'm well controlled

I think real foods nothing in a wrapper, nothing too refined, that is going counter to advice for diabetics.

I was going to say check with your gp but nowadays sadly you get better advice off youtube.

That is NOT counter to advice for diabetic

@Nowanextraone please keep a very careful diary for a week, weigh and measure everything including milk in tea or anything you clear from someone else’s plate. Don’t try to diet just observe and record. I think it’s literally impossible for you not to lose weight on 1500 cals a day

Every single person who says CICO is defunct is a quack or stupid. I'll add you to the ever growing list, do you have a book available like the majority of others who share your wrong viewpoint?

Ok, enjoy yr diet yogurt.

I can't speak for LMNT, but please look at my meal plan suggestion above. It is simple, healthy and nutritious, particularly if you use healthy oils like EVOO and/or avocado oil in your cooking.

Have a look at The Sugar Solution by Dr Mark Hyman. It's available free via Internet Archive. Reading it changed my approach to food and I have never looked back.