If dieting doesn't work what does?

[Whydoesnothingwork]

I need to lose 2 stone. It used to be one which proves my point really. Nothing works. I have a tendency to binge eat/comfort eat. So if I restrict to lose weight I do this more. I've had some therapy for this and hypnosis which has helped but my therapist says I mustn't diet as I will end up bingeing again.

So how can I lose the weight?!! I eat quite healthily most of the time.

@BusterGonad

I think a lot of people - like me - used the weigh in as a way to be accountable and disregarded a lot of the advice. I’m like the OP in that I’ve done a lot of the diets and have ended up heavier than ever. I wouldn’t say I’m a binge eater either so it’s not about eating a packet of biscuits in one sitting. I think dieting fucks with your metabolism. I’m now eating to fuel my body as well as I can with lots of veggies, fish, some whole grains, nuts and seeds etc. Although im losing weight it’s quite slow and I have to resist the conditioning I have about that. Diet culture is very very pervasive as it evident on this thread. I think “intuitive eating” is probably interesting but you really have to unpick a lot of learned “truths” about good and bad foods.

@Whydoesnothingwork you could try the Zoe plan, it’s all about abundance, changing what you enjoy, aiming for whole foods and avoiding ultra processed goods. It’s not a weight loss program but many overweight people do lose weight

IF any diet worked that company would go out of business, noone would need another 6 months membership or to go back to them
I think Second nature and to a lesser extent Noom are good for helping with thw psychological side and working out triggers for eating habits etc

Tim Spector is good on the science behind a lot of it, his conclusions
eat a wide variety of food especially veg seeds fruit and nuts, avoid sugar and artificial sweeteners and ultra processed food, most people do not need vitamin supplements, vitamins in food are absorbed much better than those in tablet form. gut health and genetics play a bigger role than thought, we need time between meals constant snacking is not good
antibiotics in the early childhood and the food chain are a problem, people's bodies are different so what works for person A may not work for person B so one diet will never be the answer for everyone
Dark chocolate is better for you than milk chocolate and a small glass of red wine has some benefits occasionally but other alcohol doesn't

Regarding the gym its a very cheap gym,no personal trainers.

Of course lifestyle changes is the answer but that’s easier said than done. I know my issue is emotional eating and boredom, but it’s taken me ages to realise. The. Having realised it took work to be able to notice it in the moment: aha you’re reaching for that biscuit because you’ve just argued with your husband. Now I’m working on persuading myself that I don’t need the biscuit to feel better and substituting with something else. As a minor binger, banning things is ineffective but having a rule of maximum X amount of whatever in one sitting is helpful. If you’ve done therapy you probably already know what your issues are.

And find exercise you can stick to. It won’t necessary help you lose loads but you’ll feel better about yourself which helps hugely imo

A divorce worked for me.

1. good sleep and stress control
2. eating two or three meals a day plus two or three tiny healthy snacks of unprocessed food cooked from scratch which contains protein, a load of veg and a small portion of carbs eliminating crisps, bought biscuits, bought cake, sweets except small piece dark choc keeping portions modest but not ridiculously so
3. eat meals between 10.30 and 6.30 or 11 am and 7 pm.
4. drinking at least four glasses of water a day
5. 7,000 steps a day plus weight training
6. doing a hobby in the evening that brings you joy that’s not compatible with eating
7. one treat meal a week (with moderate alcohol intake) so you don’t give up

Get a bike and use it for transport everyday.

Eat whatever I like and I'm a 12

And when you do eat your two or three home cooked meals a day, containing protein, load of veg and small amount of carb , fhs eat something that you enjoy!

I repeat my favourite recipes again and again because I enjoy them.

You are not going to lose weight if you don’t enjoy what you are eating as it won’t be sustainable.

Oh I enjoy all my food, like everything I eat!

Smaller portions of protein/fatty food more veg

Have you asked your therapist what to do? I imagine they will be aiming for some kind of intuitive eating.

So many incredibly unhelpful diet rules in this thread OP. If you’re having treatment for disordered eating please speak to your therapist about the ideas here before implementing them.

What happened to that last post?

It's not about dieting it is about changing your lifestyle including what you eat and making exercise part of your routine.

@Whydoesnothingwork it was spam.

It's not like that at all now.

What is slimming world like now then?

Isn't that the thing that was just spam?!!!

Of course, there have been planety of people in my life who interpret me eating smaller portions and not having too many carbs as a "diet"

It's fantastic and very impressive that you lost the weight and are keeping it off, but how is that not a diet? Going on a diet just means changing what you eat, usually in order to lose weight and/or improve your health. I've never understood the point of rebranding diets as 'lifestyle changes', or what the difference is meant to be. I guess some people will say that a lifestyle change is different because it's supposedly a permanent change, but no doubt most of those people still fall off the wagon just like most people who still call the wagon a diet.

Get a bike and use it for transport everyday.

That's really not practical for a lot of people! If I did that my journey to work would be 90 mins each way. I'd have to get up at 5:30!

I’ve just read the book Why we Eat Too Much, it talks about resetting your weight set point, I found it very interesting as a yo-yo dieter. Again it goes down the totally unprocessed food route. I’ve lost 12 pound so far without feeling hungry which has always been an issue in the past