Why We Eat (Too Much) Thread 3

[TooExtraImmatureCheddar]

We’ve chatted as much as we (used to) eat! New shiny thread for more support.

General principles:

No sugar
No wheat
No processed foods
Honourable mention to tipping the balance of omega 3 and 6, but that’s mostly achieved by doing the above.

Everything else is fair game!

@neeko re work lunches - when I was office based in the autumn and winter I would get into the habit of taking in a portion of leftovers from the night before. That also stopped me having seconds ( an ongoing issue for me .)

Thanks @Words. We've just recently been allowed to use the fridge/ microwave/ kettle again so leftovers are finally an option again. I tried those food flasks but the food was never quite hot enough.

Oh and @TooExtraImmatureCheddar I found yoga really helps with aches and pains, there is a 7 min youtube vid with Adrianne is it? Post run stretches, really felt lovely especially followed by a hot soak in epsom salts. I need to start doing yoga again post riding, I feel a bit stiff and clonky since I stopped.

Not been a bad day. Apple and cheese about 3pm, then a massive subway cheese salad. Been so busy today I couldn't face cooking. Am now tucked up in bed, am going to read for an hour then be fast on by 10pm.

Morning all. Well, not too much discomfort from the off plan flour-heavy sauce at dinner last night. I do think the cramping and bloating must have had something to do with the sudden reappearance of flour in my diet but who knows really. I am generally keeping away from it completely as per plan, so not really an issue.

I made porridge yesterday using the Felicity Cloake method from her book 'Completely Perfect' - same source as the Moussaka recipe. Involved toasting the oats first with an optional overnight soak. Very good indeed. Brought out the nutty flavour. Eaten with chopped dates and no added sugar or honey at all, just salt. ''Twas excellent. ( Any Scots out there to back this one up? )

Today I think will be salad for L and salmon and veg for D. Also making some more soft cheese in my yoghurt maker, so might have some of that with oatcakes with L, if it has strained in time.

I need to dig my yoghurt maker back out Words, had a phase when I first bought it kf making it every week but then the novelty wore off a bit, but I've missed it.

Not sure what today holds. I have a load kf tomatoes in the fridge from the allotment if they haven't gone squishy so may do a big tray bake of those with courgettes, onions and peppers and then add tomato puree and mozerella cheese and try the red lentil pasta I bought. Lunch will be whatever I pick up from the supermarket.

Am struggling a bit to maintain momentum with the end of the holidays approaching tbh, little ds is due back a week tomorrow so not too long to go now. Feel all out of routine but it's not really long enough to establish a new routine. Am quite looking forward to more autumnal food like shepherds pie and stews and soups.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/weight_loss_chat/4332041-Why-We-Eat-Too-Much-Thread-4?watched=1 New thread here!

Thank you all for your advice, Words and samthebordercollie and Highland, I think it's definitely calf rather than Achilles, based mainly on Greek myths - it does feel higher up my leg, not down near my heel, so that ought to be ok. It's still stiff and sore today but not nearly as bad as it was yesterday. I'll skip tomorrow's run and hope for the best by the weekend. Trying yoga instead sounds good, it's something I've never really done, so it would be different.

Not a great day foodwise yesterday. There wasn't much in the house and I decided that as I couldn't be arsed going to the shop, my choices were boiled eggs and soldiers or a takeaway. Weirdly I felt worse about eating granary bread than I would have done about ordering chips, so I need to give my head a wobble. I also had rather a lot of cava because I opened the bottle and then DH said he had a headache and didn't want any, so it needed to be drunk.

On the plus side, I'm wearing a skirt that I tried on last summer and abandoned in horror because it was so unflatteringly tight. It's still tight but nowhere near as bad as it was!

Hello all, I think I popped in on an earlier thread, but am definitely keen to give this a go. I've just been re-reading the book and wondering- do any of you follow his advice on avoiding grain-fed meat? That seems to include practically all chicken, pork and a lot of beef, which seems like a bit of a tall order (unless you're a vegetarian!). Or have you found sources of non grain-fed meat?

On the subject of exercise, I have been surprised to find that doing a moderate amount of strength stuff (yoga and weights) seems to be helping weight loss more than the hours of cardio I used to do, which I think is exactly what the book says (heavy cardio makes your body want to compensate for lost calories, but building muscle helps lower your weight set point, I think).

@Aria999 Ratatouille recipe was on one of the Low Carb Bootcamp threads, so should be under the recipe thread there somewhere. I did screenshot it if not so may be able to dig it out. Basically it's chop a load of veg - red onion, couple of peppers, an aubergine (I do fairly thin slices), a couple of courgettes (finely sliced, I do them with a veg peeler so they kind of dissolve rather than go soggy!) and mix in a large baking dish (I use a big metal one with deep sides) with some olive oil, garlic, mixed herbs and then spread 2 cans of chopped tomatoes over it. Bake for half an hour to 40 mins, remove and stir then top with grated cheese (I use a mix of Cheddar and parmesan) and bake for another 15-20 minutes.

Makes 4-5 large portions. I take it to work and heat it up for lunch, if DS15 doesn't steal it first!

Well I accidentally made cream cheese in my slow cooker last night. I intended to make another batch of yoghurt, but it instantly curdled when I added the whey and dregs from the last batch.

The last batch was very tangy, so I can only conclude that there was enough lactic acid in it to make cheese. It's a lovely cream cheese anyway, though I will have to buy more yoghurt now to start that process again.

I was planning to make a cheesecake for guests on Friday, so it's serendipitous. I'm going to make the digestive biscuits for the base from scratch, using spelt flour and oats. The cheese layer will be my accidental cream cheese mixed with a fresh goat's cheese and honey. I'll be serving it with fresh figs and extra honey for drizzling.

That sounds great @TheLeadbetterLife. Serendipity! I think after a while you need to use new starter. From memory using fresh yog after two or three goes was recommended in the instructions for my machine.

I use milk and lemon juice to make the cream cheese, but always have to cook it twice for some reason. I've found adding salt really improves the flavour once drained. Then I add garlic purée and herbs. Very tasty!

Does anyone know a good way to thicken sauces without flour?

B: porridge as usual
L: scrambled eggs and smoked salmon. I got some chopped frozen spinach and mixed a block of that in with my scrambled eggs. I'm not a fan of green and leafy but this was a good way to get the goodness without having to chomp through it. Looks like it will be good for adding to soups and stews too.
D: chicken supreme with broccoli.

Last night I was out of routine and forgot to eat dinner. I realised at 9.30 but I wasn't even hungry? That is unheard of for me. I ended up just having some yogurt because I felt I should but could easily have not bothered.

Patti I use cornflour occasionally to thicken stuff up, not exactly on plan but you only need a tiny bit.

The red lentil pasta is OK if anyone desperate for a wheat pasta replacement. Slightly different texture, a bit nuttier in flavour but it holds a sauce and is a reasonable replacement. I had it with roasted med veg and cheese and really enjoyed it.

Today will be snacky something at lunchtime, if I remember, then jacket potato, cheese and salad later. Picked some of the avocado mayo yesterday so going to try that.

Also weighed myself this morning and down another 1lb, taking me to 18.5lbs lost overall which I am chuffed with considering I don't feel like I am on a diet, don't say no to the odd desert or bit of dark chocolate, have a takeaway most weeks, have been drinking since July every day nearly and had a weeks holiday! And also am very rarely hungry.

I just thicken sauces with flour and have switched to using wholemeal spelt flour for everyday cooking (not that I use it much).

That's great news @HighlandCowbag.

I have similar to report - I've been at my goal weight of 75kg for two weeks now, which I'm delighted about. I didn't want to officially log it before, in case it was a fluke, but despite my cavalier attitude to the rules it seems to be sticking.

I've decided to move my goalposts and aim for 73kg, as I'd really like 75 to be my upper limit. The kind of number I only see on the scale on e.g. Boxing Day.

It's probably heavier than many people would be comfortable with, but I am tall and built like a Viking, so it's a healthy weight for me and I think I look good on it. BMI, ABSI and waist measurements are all in the healthy range anyway.

Interestingly, the biggest changes I have made in the last fortnight that seem to have got me off the plateau are a tweak to my workout routine (fewer, but more intensive HIIT sessions, and yoga on the other days) and starting a CBT course for insomnia.

The course is hard work, but on average I've been getting much more sleep, and I think it's made a huge difference. I feel less inflamed, less bloated. I think the body really does need time to repair.

I guess this is the reason than Drs Jenkinson and Chatterjee emphasise the sleep and de-stressing as the most important thing to do, because honestly I probably only stick to the eating rules about 80% of the time (if that... I ate peanuts pretty much every day last week).

Congratulations @HighlandCowbag and @TheLeadbetterLife that's wonderful!

Visiting from the future ( thread 4)

Adding my congrats too @TheLeadbetterLife @HighlandCowbag ! So glad to hear the sleep is improving, Leadbetter.

In my neck of the woods, I have set up camp on my plateau and am surveying the ( now very familiar) view. Alas, although I am a similar body type to Leadbetter I am still a stone away from healthy BMI, and waist/ hip ratio also has a way to go.

I'm toned and strong, but still carrying too much flab around my middle.

I feel a bizarre desire to make 9 posts on this thread to fill it up.

Dear lovelies, please take pity on me. Listening to the audiobook during a bout of Covid.
I have read quite a lot of the posts and I’m so pleased I’ve found you all.

Can you give me the benefit of your learning and experience?

Dr J has just told me to cut out wheat and try to eat a carb free breakfast…..no bread.
He then goes on to say about eating pasta and rice and potatoes.
Help? Are you eating these? Do you stick to a certain portion size?
Oh dear, I spent the first lockdown learning to make Sourdough 🙈🙈🙈🙈😬😖

Hi @Daintytrotters come find us on the new thread

Why We Eat (Too Much) Thread 4 http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/weightlosss_chat/4332041-Why-We-Eat-Too-Much-Thread-4

Broadly the idea is try to reduce wheat specifically as much as possible and also reduce carbs more generally (but not too much, it isn't keto)

Also we are eating more fat and protein, and reducing processed food and in particular reducing oils that are very high in omega 6. So eat lots of butter and olive oil and cut out most other oils.

But you need to find something that's sustainable for you. You can experiment a bit within the broad guidelines to find what works.

[quote TammyTwoSwanson]@words I've noticed similar when I ate wheat after not having it for a month with this woe. Each time I've had a really bad stomach. According to Dr Google, only about 10% of celiacs are diagnosed and a lot of the time, it's when people accidentally give up gluten, an allergy or intolerance is discovered![/quote]
I'm new to this thread and I only found it by searching for Einkorn.
I've only just discovered it and have baked several loaves with it. After much trial and error (mostly error) I baked a loaf I was pleased with. You can't buy the bread anywhere - or if you can, I haven't found it yet, but you can buy the flour. It's an ancient wheat which was found in the stomach of the Ice Man, and it's supposed to be much better for digestion as well as many other complaints.