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BentBaastard · 2019-05-06T22:23:36+00:00

Does anyone have any information about this? It seems to be all over Instagram with people reading the book about skinny jeans and cake 🍰 I know I could ask on there but like the anonymity on here. Just wondering if anyone has any tips or hints?

hippoherostandinghere · 15/05/2019 17:54

Yes, that's very true. It talks about this in the book. We trust our bodies to tell his when we are tired or ill but don't trust it to let us know when we're hungry. Or we're afraid to get hungry.

behindlocknumbernine · 17/05/2019 08:00

Can I join in please?
I have battled with my weight all my adult life.
I have tried countless diets.
All made me miserable, and the weight always came back on.
I fear being hungry.
I am a comfort eater.
It is going to take a long time to rewire my brain.

KnitterOfSocks · 17/05/2019 08:08

I really struggle to tell when I'm hungry. I've started having a pint of water when I think I am and only eating if that doesn't help.

I've always been very firm with my children that they never have to finish their meals if they aren't hungry. Even if it's just a mouthful, they can stop. Occasionally I've encouraged a child I know is hungry but maybe not so keen on what I've made, but generally I reinforce that you stop when you are full. They often do leave food and it astounds me as I am completely incapable of leaving anything (obvs told as a child to clear my plate). I need to copy them I think!

KnitterOfSocks · 17/05/2019 08:17

I really struggle to tell when I'm hungry. I've started having a pint of water when I think I am and only eating if that doesn't help.

I've always been very firm with my children that they never have to finish their meals if they aren't hungry. Even if it's just a mouthful, they can stop. Occasionally I've encouraged a child I know is hungry but maybe not so keen on what I've made, but generally I reinforce that you stop when you are full. They often do leave food and it astounds me as I am completely incapable of leaving anything (obvs told as a child to clear my plate). I need to copy them I think!

Crazyladee · 17/05/2019 08:28

Not directly related to this diet or book but someone upthread said that the slimmest they have ever been is when they haven't been dieting.
I can't agree more with that comment. I spent years obsessing about diets and my weight and spent about ten years lurching from one diet to the next. Every Monday morning I would start a new diet only to give up a few weeks or even days later.
Then I read about an extreme portioning diet. It was called "The Five Bite Diet" written by an American doctor who used the same principles of the diets given to people who have just had gastric band surgery. You eat what you want but just eat 5 bites of it at each meal. So I started it and modified it to suit me.
So I eat only when I'm hungry. That means skipping breakfast as I'm never really hungry in the mornings and used to just eat breakfast for the sake of it.
I eat what I want, but only half (or a third if I'm being super strict) of my usual portion.
After spending years counting points, carbs, drinking shakes, meal bars and poring over allowed foods and banned foods, the weight started to come off easily.

Sadsoul18 · 19/05/2019 17:22

My book’s just arrived. I can’t wait to read it.

I’ve struggled with binge eating for many years and really hope this can snap me out of the cycle of binging/ dieting. I’m fed up of food dictating my whole life. And I’m especially fed up of beating myself up about it all.

How’s it going for everyone else?

thislido · 19/05/2019 21:17

Knitter you get better at it with practice. I don't know if you've read the book but she describes several different ways to tell. The ones that my friend found most useful didn't resonate with me and vice versa, so I think it depends from person to person.

Hippo my other tip is really, stop weighing! It sounds like a little thing but the first time I had a go at this I was doing fine until about a month in a friend wanted to know how much I'd lost, so I weighed myself to find out. It derailed me somewhat, and I wasn't even much of a weigher before! If you aren't ready to get rid of them, put the scales somewhere really hard to get to.

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BentBaastard · 19/05/2019 21:39

I’m going to bed to read my book now and properly starting tomorrow.

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BookwormMe2 · 20/05/2019 08:09

HDE is surely just Intuitive Eating by another name? It sounds like someone's repackaging IE to make some money... Either way, IE does work, but a word of warning to seasoned dieters out there who think HDE/IE is the 'cure' they need to get off the diet treadmill - be careful that it doesn't become a new diet regime in itself and that you become obsessed with sticking to the rules and bingeing if you end up breaking them. It can very easily become the 'hunger and fullness' diet if you don't relax about the occasional slip up.

thislido · 20/05/2019 10:01

Pretty much the same thing, but in a much more digestible format that the intuitive eating book, if you’ll excuse the pun, which needed doing in my opinion! And with a different tone - different things appeal to different people.

She does emphasise not making it another variation of a rule.

Someone else recommended Susie Orbach upthread - I’d second that.

Kedgeree · 20/05/2019 10:05

Well, I've heard it all now. Hunger Directed Eating? Isn't that what most of us call "eating"? As in, when I'm hungry, I have something to eat, and when I'm not I don't? How bizarre.

Everythingsbeentaken · 20/05/2019 10:46

I think this is linked to

the fallout from the 'you must finish everything on you plate' mindset instilled in many children, which stops them from learning to identify when they are full and can lead to weight problems in later lift.

BookwormMe2 · 20/05/2019 12:38

Everythingsbeentaken I agree. We were made to shovel down every last morsel as kids, no matter how stuffed we were. Totally overrode our hunger signals. With my DD, once she's full she can get down from the table, regardless of what's left on her plate.

mooncuplanding · 20/05/2019 12:48

Also this doesn’t seem to pay attention to how ‘hunger’ works

It’s not as simple as eat x number of calories and that will sustain your energy for x number of hours. Feelings of hunger are stimulated by hormones - gherlin increases appetite, leptin decreases your appetite

If you’ve fucked up these hormonal responses to appetite, generally by eating a very high carb diet, simply you’ll feel hungrier more often than someone who eats a high fat diet who finds themselves able to go for long periods of time without appetite cravings

Nice idea, but ultimately flawed because relies on the body processing all food in the same way....calories in calories out. It’s just not that simple

thislido · 20/05/2019 13:44

Likewise being told as a child, “you can’t be hungry, you’ve just eaten”!

nellyitsme · 20/05/2019 15:11

Hi all,
@BookwormMe2 I'm getting what you're saying about this being a re-packaging of IE, just like Paul McKenna was based on Suzie Orbach's book Fat is a feminist issue, and On Eating, her short version. Also that non diets can/are other side of the coin to diets - rules, restrictions, rebounding, etc. I only recently realised that every time I come off the diet wagon I lurch off onto a non diet or anti diet and follow a whole new set of rules again

So, after a hectic weekend of family staying with us for a 50th birthday get together I'm finally getting some time to think about all this and to decide how I go about giving up diets. I wrote this in my iPad journal way back in March, only to realise that it doesn't have to be my eventual goal - I can do it now - not when I've got my eating healthy, etc
This is my eventual goal: to eat what i want, when I want, to eat within the parameters of what’s right for me and what I like to eat, and to eat less.

I'm reading and thinking. Watch this space ........

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BentBaastard · 20/05/2019 22:47

I think I would like this to be a positive thread for those of us trying something new.

I have started the book and she makes a lot of sense.

So today I had a chorizo and red onion omelette at 1.30pm.
No fry light. No speed food.

Went to work and had a banana and a tiny bowl of cereal with milk.

Dinner was at 7pm and I had 3 sausages, lentil stew, broccoli and garlic bread.

I did finish my plate. No bingeing. No dessert.

Glass water and I’m done.

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BentBaastard · 23/05/2019 09:31

How is everyone doing?

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Sunshineandshowers81 · 24/05/2019 07:25

I've just started reading intuitive eating and also the skinny jeans/cake book. I've been on a diet for most of my adult life. I'm not overweight but spent the last 8 years gaining and losing the same 10lbs on myfitnesspal. I need to do this as something needs to change

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BentBaastard · 24/05/2019 14:31

So binges at all this week.

Today was no breakfast
Egg wrap
Ham salad wrap for lunch

Just eating when I’m hungry.

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BentBaastard · 24/05/2019 14:32

No bingeing that should have said.

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hippoherostandinghere · 24/05/2019 19:00

It's going great here. I'm still eating what I fancy, waiting till I'm hungry and stopping when I'm full. No hinging because nothing it's out of bounds, but I'm not eating rubbish either because I just don't feel like it. So far so good.

behindlocknumbernine · 25/05/2019 11:23

I really need to start this. But I love the taste of food, so even though I am full I will keep eating...
I am also an emotional eater. And I eat when I am bored. And when I am snug on the sofa with a good book. And in case I am hungry later. etc etc....

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BentBaastard · 25/05/2019 19:56

Behind

Read the book

Honestly
Order it and read it

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Love51 · 25/05/2019 21:51

Does it work for people who don't really get hungry? I don't get hunger pangs very often, I go from peckish to feeling a bit faint and very shakey. So yeah, I fit in the 'scared of hunger' category.