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help! Not losing weight on 800 calories a day.

71 replies

Clairetree1 · 20/06/2018 04:53

I've been on 800 calories a day for 2 weeks, lost nothing! any advice? I can't log on again until this evening, but will be checking back then. Thank you

OP posts:
Clairetree1 · 20/06/2018 21:30

How much exercise are you doing, OP?

a lot! I can't realistically fit any more exercise in - I work at least 12 hours a day, and am exercising 1-2 hours - running/swimming/cycling

Are you due you period?

yes! will that be the reason?

Do you not feel hungry/fatigued etc all the time?

no, not really, surprisingly, I feel less hungry now than I normally do. not particularly tired either really. I have felt a bit dizzy once or twice

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Racecardriver · 20/06/2018 21:31

Have you considered water retention? Are you drinking more than before?

DextroDependant · 20/06/2018 21:31

If starvation mode were a real thing (it's not) it wouldn't kick in straight away. OP has been on this diet for 2 weeks.

I had surgery recently and could only consume 300-600 calories a day. I am smallish to start with and lost over a stone in 3 weeks.

OP if you are genuinely weighing, measuring and being honest with yourself then see the doctor because something isn't right.

Are you drinking lots of water to make sure it's not water retention?

Imsodonewithshit · 20/06/2018 21:35

I'm loosing about 1kg a week on 800cals (medically supervised before anyone jumps on me. But I have a lot to lose)

Are you measuring weighing everything? You're eating a lot more than I am.

Today I had 10grams of porridge 5 raspberries and 65grams of fat free yoghurt for breakfast.

A mini wrap with salad and 50grams grilled chicken for lunch

Half a m&S good for you beef casserole for dinner and a mini milk.

That is just under 800 cals.

If I eat 1000cals my weight loss slows right down to barely noticeable. But I've been on a vlcd a while in the first 6 weeks I lost 15kgs on 800cals a day. So I don't believe the posters that say it's not enough to loose weight.

I also go to gym classes 3x a week and walk the dog 5km a day. So MFP usually has me at a 3000 cal deficit

But when my thyroid wasn't controlled I couldn't loose weight no matter what I did.

Clairetree1 · 20/06/2018 21:37

Have you considered water retention? Are you drinking more than before?

yes I am, maybe this is something to do with it

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QforCucumber · 20/06/2018 21:40

Period can hinder the loss hugely! Keep going, try at least a month. Weigh first thing in the morning after going to the toilet bur before shower.
Starvation mode' isnt a thing, otherwise anorexia wouldn't be an issue.

lljkk · 20/06/2018 21:40

Wow, you're amazing to sustain that. I did some 800 kcal days, which included 52 minutes of mild exercise (commuter cycling). No way I could have done any aerobic exercise, though, without becoming ravenous. They were tough days as it was.

Clairetree1 · 20/06/2018 21:40

I'll ask about getting my thyroid checked too

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TittyGolightly · 20/06/2018 21:45

Too much sugar, not enough fat.

I can easily do 12weeks at 800 cals per day:

120g full fat (10%) Greek yogurt, 80gfrozen berries, 6g ground flaxseed

300ml butternut squash/pea and spinach soup

Stir fried vegetables with prawns/tuna steak/sea bass

2 proper coffees wth 1tbsp double cream in each

2 litres water

Lost 3.5 stone in 12 weeks doing this and kept it off.

Clairetree1 · 20/06/2018 21:48

I'll keep persevering!

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BrownTurkey · 20/06/2018 21:54

People are different, bodies are complex.

Babybearsporij · 24/06/2018 07:34

It might be the diet drinks - they seem to cause a reaction in my body and cause me to retain water. Try cutting them out - maybe try sparkling water if you need fizz?

Clairetree1 · 24/06/2018 07:51

I'll try that, thanks

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KimCheesePickle · 24/06/2018 11:04

It's not so much about energy intake (though that is the baseline... laws of thermodynamics yadda yadda) - energy partition is far more the important factor.

You're not a simple internal combustion engine, you are a complex biochemical, metabolically active person. You have two basic energy pathways in the body... you can either burn energy or you can store it. And whether you burn energy or store it is down to complex biochemical signalling pathways, things like insulin, ghrelin and other appetite hormones.

Imagine you live totally off grid and have solar panels on your roof. Energy intake sufficient to run your appliances is contingent on the sun falling on your roof... it's a simple linear model, where input = output, like the calories in vs calories out model of dieting expounds.

Now add in a Tesla battery bank. Now, if you take in excess energy on a sunny day, you can store it. Electrical detectors and signalling in your system determine whether energy is used up immediately on the fly for appliances running right now, or stored for later when it is dark/cloudy. The human body has its own battery system like this... it's called the liver. You can either burn energy right now or store it for later by building up a fatty liver.

This is a relatively healthy adaptation for humans living in primeval times who experienced days and weeks of fasting due to poor luck on hunting expeditions, lean seasons, storms destroying the gathering crop etc etc. They had stores to fall back on. But today where we have year round abundance of processed food in the supermarkets, the batteries keep getting topped up perpetually, to breaking point, where people suffer obesity, T2 diabetes, non alcoholic fatty liver disease and many others associated with metabolic syndrome.

Sort out the energy signalling problem by controlling insulin production through diet and controlled fasting and most of these problems fall away. So eat minimal sugars and processed carbs. Eat at least half a plateful of mainly above-ground vegetables or salad. Standard size piece of meat/fish eg lamb chop. Lots of good fats like grass fed butter, olive oil and coconut. The old Mediterranean diet basically (ie not the pasta/pizza/churros version). Some eggs, dairy if you tolerate it, nuts and berries and you're good to go. Herbs and seasonings for flavour.

Check out Dr Jason Fung, Canadian nephrologist on youtube, who endorses LCHF & fasting for his patients and readers.

thefishwhocouldwish · 24/06/2018 15:33

Check out Dr Jason Fung, Canadian nephrologist on youtube, who endorses LCHF & fasting for his patients and readers.

Or read his book, The Obesity Code. Very readable and he talks a lot of sense, particularly about myths like starvation mode.

ShesABelter · 24/06/2018 15:41

Basically when you start losing the glycogen out your fat cells initially they can refill with water. This is your bodies way of preserving those fat cells in hope of you eating enough to refill them. Bodies dont like losing weight. If you keep going it will realise nothing is coming and the fat cells will burst and you will have a loss. People whose bodies do that tend to have bigger losses literally overnight.

bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/of-whooshes-and-squishy-fat.html/

GardenGeek · 24/06/2018 15:46

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gryffen · 24/06/2018 16:06

Question.

800cals a day us similar to a liver shrink diet for pre op weight loss surgery.
(Gastric sleeve last April so I know the diet).

So if your crash dieting then stop and get sensible and if it's the above then there is no way you won't be losing weight or inches unless it's 800calories of Kitkats your eating.

Feel free to DM me - I still have my preop diet and weight management book I'm willing to share even if not in the preop diet.

TheDishRanAwayWithTheSpoon · 24/06/2018 16:20

I thought starvation mode was to do with the production of ketones for the brain and breakdown of muscle ? I.e. not what everyone on MN thinks it is.
If you eat 800kcal a day you should lose weight, your body can't magically live off less and less calories otherwise no one would ever die of starvation, it takes a certain amount of calories to keep a body going, weight loss might not be linear but no one should maintain weight on 800kcal a day.
Firstly..are you sure you are only eating 800? That's very little
Secondly definitely get your thyroid checked and think about water retention etc. If I am due my period my body essentially swells up and I start retaining water for a few days before and can easily gain 6lbs pre-period.

gryffen · 24/06/2018 21:02

Sent you a PM Op - hope it helps and lemme know if anything else :)

Clairetree1 · 15/07/2018 11:37

Hi thanks for all your input.

I have tried a few of your suggestions, and they have been helpful. I think the suggestion that it was due to my period was the best one though, it does seem that I stop losing weight just before my period starts, then lose a massive chunk over a couple of days straight after.

I have lost a stone since I last posted on here, but once my period came around again, all weight loss stopped, then another chunk vanished straight after.

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huha · 15/07/2018 11:42

Weight loss isn't linear. You may find you aren't losing (but not gaining either) and then bam! The scale goes down 5lbs. Hang in there and don't change anything.

Vanillamanilla1 · 15/07/2018 11:56

Agree with gryffen, you're on a liver shrinkage style diet , it'll shrink your liver but not necessarily make you lose weight.
I've had weight loss surgery , lost 80% of my stomach and I should be on 1000 cals a day
Up the calories a little maybe to 1000 which is still considered very low calorie , up the water intake
The myth about storing fat and starvation mode is BS , see prisoners of war pictures

Aridane · 15/07/2018 13:59

Glad,to,hear the weight finally fell off, OP

DaffoDeffo · 15/07/2018 14:04

This happened to me and it just kicked in after 3-4 weeks. I was v low about it. But now I have lost masses. Just took that long to kick in