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Spent the weekend with slim people and I now see why I'm overweight

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ChristmasTreeLight · 03/12/2017 17:07

After having spent the weekend with slim people, it appears that they:

a) don't need as much food to feel full,
I couldn't believe that after X amount of food, they were full - I could have happily carried on eating.

b) can go much longer between meals without eating,
At one point in the afternoon, I was ready to gnaw my arm off, I asked if anyone wanted to stop for a snack (thinking they'd be starving) but no, they were happy to keep going

c) don't crave sweet stuff in the way I do.
I I need sweet things as pudding, I was almost desperate for some chocolate, whereas again they just did not seem to feel that urge.

I am a size 14 and they are 8-10 and now I can see why. It's led me to wonder is it something innate, something physical? Are you just born like that, not to have the appetite or the sweet tooth? Am I simply fighting a losing battle in the vain dream of being a size 10 one day?

Hmm
OP posts:
Ta1kinPeace · 03/12/2017 17:35

elephants
Weight loss is 90% food and 10% exercise.
You need to learn to treat yourself in a low calorie way

  • try not to snack ~ make your treat be part of a meal
  • go for smaller portions of REALLY YUMMY foods
  • plan every meal to make one small part of it be true pleasure - even if its a few shavings of posh cheese on a salad
Food is a pleasure, but getting the pleasure from quality rather than quantity makes it even better Smile
minipie · 03/12/2017 17:35

It may be partly something you’re just born with, but I think it’s mainly habit. If you got out of the habit of snacking or overeating your body would stop telling you that you needed that food. I think the message that you were starving was mainly because your body was expecting food at that time, rather than because you physically needed to eat something.

This.

Unfortunately your parents did you no favours by making you clear your plate as a child.

MsHarry · 03/12/2017 17:36

I also think that it is banded about that women need 2000 cals a day. for my height, I only need 1500 to stay at my weight. That's still plenty if you allow roughly 300 for breakfast, 400 for lunch, 600 for dinner and 200 for milk in hot drinks etc.

PurpleDaisies · 03/12/2017 17:37

go for smaller portions of REALLY YUMMY foods

It doesn’t have to be smaller portions if it’s mainly veg based. With loads of herbs and spices you can still eat “really yummy” meals.

TroubleinDaFamily · 03/12/2017 17:38

I can't eat protein easily, no saliva glands, (long story) searchable on here if you are truly bored. Grin

I exist on veg and sloppy food, I need to eat everything with a litre of water.

I am a size 6/8 and weigh eight stone wet through on a good day.

I was a size 16/18 before I got sick.

I would give my eyeteeth to be over weight again. Sad

I guess what I am trying to say is sometimes there is a back story to peoples weight.

I have in the last six months decided that this is the new me and I need to embrace it, but it came a price.

NoelNiki · 03/12/2017 17:38

It's anathema to say it on here but people are overweight simply because they eat too much and too often.

Your friends are not undereating, they are eating normal quantities.

I say this as someone who has previously been a size 14 and now a size 10.

extinctspecies · 03/12/2017 17:39

I noticed it when out for dinner with a group of school Mums from DS's year.

The largest ladies were the ones who went all out for 3 courses including dessert "because it's a night out".

The skinny ones opted for just 2 courses, and one of them just had 2 starters.

NoelNiki · 03/12/2017 17:40

Unfortunately your parents did you no favours by making you clear your plate as a child.

Exactly and also the timeless one of if you dont eat all your dinner, you cant have all your dessert. In other words, please overeat so you can then over eat some morw.

WorldPeasAndSweetcorn · 03/12/2017 17:40

I used to be so thin i was repeatedly hospitalised. Now i have binge eating disorder and im twice the size i was a year ago Sad
Even though i technically know from past experience that some people find it hard to keep weight on, it feels like they're lying

expatinscotland · 03/12/2017 17:42

I'm a size 10 and exercise quite a bit. I go through bouts of eating what I think is loads, mostly tied to my cycle, and other times not much at all. I really can't eat a lot at one time, I've never been able to, and I don't care for sweets much, maybe once a week or so. Just don't like them. I'd rather eat a slice of pizza. I visit a friend who is naturally slim and she doesn't eat a thing between meals, though.

expatinscotland · 03/12/2017 17:43

I never eat dessert on a meal out, even when I was a size 14. Just don't care for sweets.

MsHarry · 03/12/2017 17:44

I was told to clear my plate too but i think that because we didn't eat anything for 4/5 hours after it was ok. mum wanted the meal to see us through. None of us are fat.I tell my DC to clean plates too but I only give them smallish portions which they can add to.

RJnomore1 · 03/12/2017 17:44

I'm afraid I'd rather be a size 14 and enjoy food that an 8/10 eating a quarter of a steak.

The sugar thing is a worry and not good for you but some of the amounts I see people say they're eating on here is just a fast route to osteoporosis IMO

ChristmasTreeLight · 03/12/2017 17:45

Oh, bloody lightbulb moment here - so this one I have already thought about before: "Unfortunately your parents did you no favours by making you clear your plate as a child."

But THIS one: "Exactly and also the timeless one of if you dont eat all your dinner, you cant have all your dessert. In other words, please overeat so you can then over eat some more" AND thereby making pudding a 'reward,' and who doesn't want to be rewarded?

Wow. @NoelNiki you've given me some food for thought there - pun unintended...

OP posts:
MsHarry · 03/12/2017 17:45

Remember that protein should be the size of the palm of your hand and carbs your fist, the rest of your plate needs to be veg.

ChristmasTreeLight · 03/12/2017 17:45

Can your stomach stretch? Can it shrink back down??

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MsHarry · 03/12/2017 17:47

Yes and yes.

Scabbersley · 03/12/2017 17:48

I've been doing Low Carb Bootcamp and now I do a b and c from your OP!

MsHarry · 03/12/2017 17:48

FYI I have tiny hands.Sad

Letmesleepalready · 03/12/2017 17:49

I used to be very skinny and now I’m edging towards size 18... and it is because before I’d be ravenous between meals and now I’m eating all the time. I keep hoping I’ll get my act together and stop eating so much, but it’s become such a habit I hardly notice it anymore until I realise at the end of the day I’ve eaten all the biscuits and chocolates we had in the house.

Scabbersley · 03/12/2017 17:49

" I feel really faint and disoriented if I haven't eaten for a while and I also crave chocolate. I eat chocolate everyday, it's a definite addiction"
the sugar low is making you faint.

allegretto · 03/12/2017 17:50

I've never really liked desserts either although I love the cheese trolley!

perfectstorm · 03/12/2017 17:52

I was slim all my life until I had my first child. Put on 6 stone in that pregnancy. Four stone fell off at once, and the last stone (I was a stone more, but that was fine as I was very thin orginally) took weaning, plus stopping finishing his meals off - he has food issues so there was a lot of waste.

I was a lot more careful with the second pregnancy and ate a lot more healthily. I still put on six stone.

It's a lot less to do with will power and a lot more to do with metabolism than I ever realised. I was starving in pregnancy and needed to eat a lot more, a lot more often. It was really humbling to understand that I was slim less because I was sensible about eating, and more because I just didn't get very hungry, usually.

Apparently we also have bacteria in our gut that they now believe drives food cravings, with those that thrive on unhealthy foods then overgrowing and making us crave more.

If you can afford it I think things like Hello Fresh are great as a short term step. They provide all pre-measured ingredients for a healthy diet so that you cook from scratch and eat well, but can't over-eat. We did that for a while because I realised my son's very restricted diet meant our daughter was developing a limited palate from underexposure, and yet I found balancing two sets of healthy meals exhausting to the point I wasn't doing it. That helped and we now use the recipes without paying for the weekly boxes.

The other big thing is that starch makes you fat, as does sugar. They are stored differently when you eat them to excess. I snack now on apples and cubes of cheddar, instead of biscuits, for example, and it seems to fill me up without making me crave more.

I also think we should have a rethink on what beauty is. Being overweight isn't that much of a health risk. Obesity yes; overweight no. My main reason now for wanting to watch my weight as I age is arthritis in my feet - it hurts to be fat. But I do honestly believe that people's metabolism is everything - I had birth injuries after my kids that in the second case led to abscesses, and I couldn't do much for a year while the NHS fannied around sorting them out. I was around the 13 stone mark. They fixed it, and now I am something between 9 and 10, which is right for a tall woman. I've not taken up more exercise - I just move faster, and more, and rest less... and crave less sugar, which I did when teetering close to sepsis all the time.

This is long and rambling: what I am trying to say is that it's less choice, in my experience, than messages sent from your body. Trying to alter your diet so you crave less carbs and sugar, in case the gut biome theory (that overgrown 'bad' bacteria want those foods, so you crave them, feed that bacteria, and then crave more) is correct seemed to work with me, and so did just being able to go out more. But mainly I just don't feel starving hungry, and when I did, weight was a battle. I think I spent years feeling virtuous about my weight, and like I controlled it, when I found that easy. The years I didn't find it easy I was fat. It was less about will power than I would ever have believed. So I take my hat off to women who feel that deep hunger, and still manage to maintain a healthy weight. It was beyond me at those times.

My son is constantly starving and about to be seen for endochrine testing as a result. We're hoping it's just a sensory need, and not some sort of syndrome, but again, the fact some medical conditions leave patients starving hungry when their calorie needs are more than met does indicate there's a lot more going on metabolically than we understand as yet. Hopefully medical science will move on and help in the future - meanwhile, willpower seems all there is. And it's tough.

noeffingidea · 03/12/2017 17:52

Not sure if it actually shrinks, Christmas but you can reset your appetite.
I hate seeing food wasted, I'm all for dishing up smaller portions and using smaller plates.

Scabbersley · 03/12/2017 17:53

I've lost 12lbs in two months following the high fat, low carb diet on here. Its been a complete revelation. I expect I will stay on it in some form for the rest of my life.

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