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Bloody mother in laws!!!

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prawnypoos · 26/05/2014 12:56

Arrrgggghhh she knows that I'm trying to lose weight!! So what does she do? Buys fish and chips. She NEVER buys us dinner. I'm sure she's done it out of spite so that I feel obliged to eat it. (My DP bought her fish and chips on Friday because it was her birthday, i didnt get any for myself and she played pop) how many times do you need fish and chips in a week? I'm sure she's done it on purpose, absolutely sure :(

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FunnyFoot · 26/05/2014 13:00

Eat them they won't kill you.
Smile and say thank you. If she has done it to wind you up don't let her see it worked.
Do a little extra exercise and eat a few low calorie meals for the rest of the day.

Personally I love fish & chips so would eat them 5 times a week if I could Grin

prawnypoos · 26/05/2014 13:14

I feel absolutely discussed with myself to be honest. I feel like all of my hard work has been for nothing.

I ate them and she sat there until I had finished them :( I just feel like she will do anything to sabotage my weight loss.

I just want to sit in a corner and cry for the rest of the day now, I really do

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FunnyFoot · 26/05/2014 13:18

Aww Prawny they were just F & C they really aren't going to destroy your diet. Yes I understand it's not great when you have a 'diet' mind set and routine but in the grand scheme of things it really isn't the end of the world.
Try looking at it a different way.

You didn't cheat on your diet you just ate F & C bought by MIL which will in turn ensure peace and harmony amongst all Grin

I do wonder if this has anything to do with your other thread (why you are feeling tearful) Thanks

prawnypoos · 26/05/2014 13:21

She would've gone mad if I hadn't eaten them. I'm just very much all or nothing with this dieting malarkey.

Anyway she will be absolutely delighted with herself now.
She's probably standing over her cauldron with her broom stick and black cat cackling like an old witch.

Just hope it doesn't effect my weight loss this week. I've been so good and controlled

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prawnypoos · 26/05/2014 21:34

Well I haven't eaten anything for the remainder of the day. I've felt too sick to eat anything to be fair.

My partner is nagging me to eat but I can't being myself to

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zipzap · 26/05/2014 22:07

Haven't spotted your other thread, but it sounds from this one that your mil isn't the nicest of people.

If she does this again, could you peel the batter off the fish and give it to your dh or leave it on the side - then at least you are just having the healthy fish bit and taking away the unhealthy batter bit? clutching at straws Claim you're finding it too greasy or doesn't taste right or anything if she questions it.

And if mil blows up at that, then offer her the batter to eat herself... Then leave half the chips claiming you are too full to eat them, that you will put them in the fridge for later (which of course never comes and either dh can have them or you can chuck them).

It's horrible when you end up in a position of doing something that you really didn't to because you feel obliged because things could get really horrible otherwise. What did your dh say about it?

Alternatively, if there is a next time, could you say that last time you had fish and chips they made you feel really ill and so you are off them for a while, you really can't face eating them again but you're sure that dh who has a cast iron constitution will enjoy them or she can have them etc etc She's not to know that you felt traumatised ill rather than violently sick ill - and sounds like you don't want to eat them for a while - so would all be true!

prawnypoos · 26/05/2014 22:18

She's a horrible old bitch! She really is! Has to control everything.

I think funnyfoot was referring to it being TOTM which I mentioned briefly in. A previous thread.

DP said just eat them or there will be hell on. They pr

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prawnypoos · 26/05/2014 22:21

She's a horrible old bitch! She really is! Has to control everything.

I think funnyfoot was referring to it being TOTM which I mentioned briefly in. A previous thread.

DP said just eat them or there will be hell on. They probably haven't done me any harm, it's just the principle - if someone is trying to lose weight then don't buy them fish and chips laden with grease and watch them squirm as they feel obliged to eat them. Ugggghhhhh she does my head in!

I did peel the batter off and it was only a small portion of chips but even so I'm still upset.
It's sat on my stomach like lead all afternoon.

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littlegreengloworm · 26/05/2014 22:25

She probably did this deliberately. Could you refuse the next time. I'd tell her your off the wagon and don't want to diet anymore and diet in secret, some people like to sabotage efforts.

BellaVita · 26/05/2014 22:29

Please don't feel guilty. That is the worst thing you could do.

Tomorrow is another day.

You could do a couple of "light" days this week, say tomorrow and Thurs or Wed and Fri and maybe just eat around 500 cals like with the 5:2 to claw back the cals if you are still worried.

prawnypoos · 26/05/2014 22:35

That's exactly it!! I don't want my DD to grow up thinking that its ok, affordable and normal to have fish and chips twice a week because its not!

Occasional treat yes! Several times a week NO!

It's nasty! I've honestly felt like giving up today because of that. Been on a complete downer all day. Just feel like all of my hard work has gone to shit. Some people might think I'm very unappreciative but its very obvious what she's done.

I was just starting to see a different person in the mirror, starting to notice that some of my fat bits weren't as fat and now all I see is the big, fat, hideous blob I saw before with tits on her back as well as her front and love handles the size of a small country

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tobysmum77 · 27/05/2014 12:12

Just tell her you don't want them next time. If she goes off on one that's her problem not yours. Silly cow. Fwiw I recently did ww and didn't tell my mil I couldn't face the scrutiny of whether or not I liked thinner each time she saw me.

Force feeding someone fish and chips is bullying, don't let jet do it.

tobysmum77 · 27/05/2014 12:13

Just tell her you don't want them next time. If she goes off on one that's her problem not yours. Silly cow. Fwiw I recently did ww and didn't tell my mil I couldn't face the scrutiny of whether or not I liked thinner each time she saw me.

Force feeding someone fish and chips is bullying, don't let jet do it.

tak1ngchances · 27/05/2014 12:27

I think it sounds like you have a terrible relationship with your body and with food and you are incredibly black and white about things.
If you are eating well most days then I promise you that a meal of fish & chips won't do any harm. It will not sabotage your diet or make you fat.
If is also not at all unreasonable to eat half of your fish and chips, declare it absolutely delicious and then say "wow I'm completely stuffed, do either of you want the rest of this?"
It is not a sin to throw leftovers in the bin.

prawnypoos · 27/05/2014 16:26

I have been pestered about my weight since the age of 4 by parents, grandparents and other relatives. I wasn't over weight until I reached 14. I had been ground down and down.

I think my all or nothing attitude is down to this. I was constantly compared to my 'slim' friends, I have no confidence or self esteem. I won't even go to baby and toddler groups with DD. That makes me feel horrendous, it really does :(

I went I see my gran a week or two ago and she said 'I would suggest going to the pub for dinner but we'll go when you've got your weight down a bit.' This made me feel awful, it like saying I don't want to be seen in public with you because you're a big fat mess.

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Tansie · 27/05/2014 19:57

"DP said just eat them or there will be hell on"

Hereby lies the problem.

I kept my 'diet' secret from my DM, who is not a complete bitch but is one who ascribes being fit, able and reasonably active (and on no medication whatsoever) but definitely slim enough (she'd 80 and just pushing into size 16s, 5'2") as being a result of her self-control over the years- as opposed to her 40 a day habit... she stopped smoking twice in her life and restarted due to weight gain, fact. I was a teenager at the time. I remember.

However, when I mentioned I was going to lose some weight, in she comes with her usual 'Well, what you need to do is..' at which point I held my hand up and said 'I appreciate your input but stop right there, I won't be taking weight loss tips from a smoker'... Grin. She looked nonplussed, then tried the old 'No one fat ever came out of Belsen' Shock but yes; which I counter with 'And few came out without lifelong kidney, heart and liver disease, and many developed a pathological relationship to food as a result'.

I'm not suggesting this will be helpful but it stopped my DM in her tracks.

IMHO, you need to get DP on side. He has to support you, hard that it might be. 'Win' this via calm, assertive refusal to join in on the F&C, certainly at this stage. By all means when you're well on track, go 'Yum!' Then scrape all the batter off the fish and eat 5 chips, theatrically pushing the rest away as you're Now Full, thanks.

Prawny, I am about to say something you already know, and that is you have to recognise that the act of choosing to lose weight is an act of love towards yourself, this is about YOU, not them. You only have one life, and these are the people life has thrown at you but it doesn't mean that these people's views about you are worth diddly-squat.

The people around you have 'a view' of you, one that they're comfortable with. In some families, it's 'the ill one', in some it's 'the one you mustn't upset because s/he's fragile, you know'. Some it's 'the fat one'. That's your ascribed position within the family, and you are threatening their world view and they don't like it. This might be a spur to you saying Screw You!

As an aside, I went to a seminar a few years ago about family illness, and the leader said something interesting about how some families are held together by the chronic illness of a family member. 'This is how we are and how we behave towards each other because so-and-so is ill, and we all dance attendance around that fact. DO NOT mess with what works for us by making that person well'. It manifested as people refusing to help the ill person with aggressive therapies like physio; refusing to take the 'ill' person to appointments; always fetching and carrying for that family member when in their increasing health, they could have fetched something themselves. It suits the family dynamic, the dance they create around each other, for that person to be 'The Ill One'. Increasing health would destroy that so they actively fight against the unknown.

Are you your family's 'Fat One?'

prawnypoos · 27/05/2014 21:54

That makes complete sense tansie. I had never even thought of it like that.

MIL and my mum don't get on. My MIL knows that my mum nags about my weight and she often says to me 'don't be eating a ryvita a day like your stupid mother' and stuff like that.

I think she would happily stuff all of the shite she could in to me until I was 25 stones just to spite my mum. Her husband died of a heart attack before DP was born due to a diet high in fat.

I didn't tell her that I was trying to lose weight DP did. He supports me and says he is capped with me for taking it so seriously and has said that he doesn't want me to buy junk in anymore.

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tobysmum77 · 28/05/2014 06:59

I agree with the above. In my case I've never been overweight always up to having kids been thinner than mil but just after maybe I wasnt ifyswim? I think her scrutiny of me was comparison to her but it was horrible. Interestingly now I am clearly thinner than her again she's totally lost interest in my weight!

I was never massively big either, bmi 26 a month after having dd2! So my weight was hardly affecting my health. Having her saying enthusiastically everytime I saw her 'oooo, have you last weight' in an excited voice made me Angry. When I was pregnant with dd2 I had to tell dh to tell her to stop making personal comments because I really was going to thump her at Christmas when I was 39 weeks and looked hideous.

I am getting the impression you are quite young. DP needs to stop behaving like a mummy's boy and start making his mother treat you both like adults not children.

And all the comparisons that's just horrible Sad. I have a friend who was always compared to her skinny sister and she has been on the edge of having an eating disorder the whole time I've known her.

prawnypoos · 28/05/2014 07:35

Yeah it's crap. I have such a bad relationship with food, looking back yesterday I had a milk chocolate digestive and a bowl of soup all day!

I am a but stressed out due to family problems at home but still I don't think that that's adequate or particularly setting a very good example to DSD or DD.

DSD keeps asking what I'm having for dinner and the truth is that I will often sit down with then to feed DD but eat nothing myself.
Partly because they are priority partly because I feel as though I have achieved something if I've skipped a meal :/
Particularly if its been piddling down and I haven't been for a nice, long walk up a steep hill. But where can you go in this weather with two kids?

I've been doing squats, lunges, running on the spot (which reminds me that I need a sports bra!) that's shocking tobysmum! MILs are just horrible. I hope I'm not like that and your poor, poor friend. I think that's sisters though.

I always felt sorry for my aunt. My mum was slim with olive skin, brown eyes and those lovely beachy natural waves in her hair. Stunning basically (I took after my dad, uggghhhh) my aunt had bright ginger hair, was a bigger build altogether than my mum and was a bit goofy looking. I can imagine she was always compared to my mum.

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prawnypoos · 28/05/2014 08:42

I know but I felt obliged to eat them. DP an his family all live very close by and I would never have heard the end of it.

I know all MILs are not the same I'm just unlucky that mine is particularly unpleasant. She did it out of spite and watched until I had finished them, you have no idea how I felt after. I felt controlled, used and a failure I really did.

I know I didn't have to eat them but by not doing so I would've been given endless amounts of stick and called wasteful etc and a bad example to the kids.

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Fattyfattyyumyum · 28/05/2014 20:00

I think you're being a tad ridiculous tbh.

You did not have to eat them. Full stop. Nor do you have to put up with being called names (be it "fat" "wasteful" or any one if the others you've mentioned). These people are toxic - stand up for yourself and make it clear you will no longer accept such behaviour.

Plus, the fact you did eat them WILL NOT AFFECT YOUR WEIGHT LOSS. Only your long term actions will, not just one meal. You need to forgive yourself and move onto focussing on healthy food.

prawnypoos · 28/05/2014 21:16

You're right. I just felt a bit bullied in to it.

I'm a bit stressed out and not myself at the moment. Not eating properly full stop. Through the duration of the day food has been the last thing on my mind :(

I have forgiven myself now and I know I should've stuck up for myself.
Anyway onwards and upwards

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tobysmum77 · 29/05/2014 08:13

You aren't going to sort your weight problem out by not eating and skipping meals op. You need to cook a healthy meal and sit down to eat with dd.

I also disagree re getting stick of you don't get mil under control she will control you for ever. If dp won't support you then that is very worrying in my opinion.

tobysmum77 · 29/05/2014 08:14

And it isnt you feeling bullied into it you were bullied into it.