I went to the Doctors to discuss weight loss etc - she said she didn't have time!

[MamaG]

Felt really shit about it afterwards, she just said yes, you do need to lose weight, here's a leaflet, I don't have time to discuss it!

I stamped my foot a bit and she agreed to refer me to the dietician to devise a good diet/exercise plan and said if it doesn't work, she'll give me some pills - not quite what I was looking for.

Bitch.

Moondog - as plenty of others on here have implied it really isn't that simple - lol that you think it is.

MamaG if you do want to talk to someone please get in touch - shapeworksuk at yahoo dot co dot uk - I run a weight loss business and mentor our customers through their weight loss and am quite happy to give whatever advice and guidance I can - without any obligation.

Well though I think she said it rather harshly, moondog is right! I am rather a porker and from time to time lose a lot of weight (after putting it all on due to steriods I take for Crohns)

And yes all you do need to do is eat less and exercise more

However it is hard esp if you have a lot to lose.

I don't know that I would ever think about going to a doctor about it though. What can they tell you that you don't already know?

suejonez. Love your post.

But suejonez however you dress it up, eat less exercise more is still what any group, diet book or dietician will say to someone who wants to lose weight. I'm sure if mamaG looks honestly at a food diary and assesses how much exercise she does, she will see that it doesn't equal weight loss. It's what she does then that is crucial - and I reckon support from a friend (not a profit making one) is pretty invaluable. If the friend is in the same boat, even better.

Interesting thread,

On the subject of Slimming Clubs, didn't Victoria Wood once say "knowing how many points there are in a Curly Wurly is all very well and good, but it's not going to stop me eating 7 of them if I'm having a bad morning"

I guess what she is trying to say is that a lot of people over eat for a reason (not because they think double portions of everything 'n' chips, is actually good for them.

Anyway, love Victoria Wood

Sorry you didn't get the support you needed from your GP MamaG, (I bet she was as thin as a rake too)

Where did I say "Eat less, exercise more" wasn't the answer? Don't think I dressed it up did I? I wasn't thinking of your posts when I wrote mine Satine.

I was just saying how helpful that particular piece of advice was to MamaG because she probably never realised that before.

Does anyone else have a problem that we can solve?

My husband is a shit - well, leave him.
I'm homesick - come home then.
Breast feeding hurts - stop doing it.
I'm anorexic - have a cream cake.
I'm depressed - pull yourself togther.

I'm really getting the hang of it now...

I think I offered some sensible advice earlier (including that GP is probably not the ideal person to advise) and don't have any more to say on this thread. Other than - "Losing weight is hardly rocket science" - rocket science really isn't that complicated - it's just a matter of Newtons third law and a few heat resistant tiles.

@ sue again

PMSL sue! Loving your posts.

MamaG, where are you? I'd gladly do some kind of mutual support thing with you, not least because it will encourage me too! like I only got good at runnning when competing with dh I'll have a look at your lifestyle and be honest with you, if I think thre's anything you really haven't seen.

has anyone noticed that Paul Mckenna is spookily trying to talk to us through his banner ad at the top of this page?

Do you think he knows

Not listening (lalalal la la lah)

Hmmm, obviously not, well I did and according to Him

"If you?re overweight, it?s not your fault. It?s the natural result of your current mental programming. I will help you control your habits and programme your mind to slim your body"

Have a look at the site, it has obviously worked for Maureen

I did but I'm not going to post again or it would spoil my "don't have any more to say on this thread" (Damn and blast you Paul McKenna)

Were I to post again I would say - wouldn't it be spooky if the answer isn't "eat less move more" but "paul mckennnaaaaaaaaaaaa (in a hypnotic voice)"

Well I am about to have a lovely scrummy meal all by myself and enjoy a couple of guilt free glasses of wine and I defy you, Paul Mckenna or anyone else to try and stop me!

Sorry you hit a brick wall, there MamaG

I understand how hard it can be. I am just like mustrunmore - all or nothing.

Hope you find something that works for you soon.

Am considering a Paul McKenna seminar myself...

I went to my GP and she was lovely. I asked about medication and she agreed that I was suitable to try it. I did and it started to work. The only reason I stopped taking them was because baby number 3 was on his way!

I have been overweight for the 33yrs. I KNOW how to lose weight. I could definitely write a book on it but it doesn't mean I CAN lose weight.

I have struggled physically and emotionally with my weight since I was 8yrs old. I was put on an 800cal diet by my GP and ballooned!

Sadly, my poor brain has been damaged by this starvation diet. I am trying (Paul McKenna Style) to re-programme it, so that I understand the difference between hungry and full.

Because I was starved at 8yrs old, I stole food from the kitchen, bought cakes(with pinched luncheon vouchers from my dad's drawer) after school and always went up for seconds of school pud!

It might sound strange that I don't know the difference between hungry and full, but it is the truth.

So, MamaG, start with the dietician and see how you go. Ignore those that say it is easy. Clearly, it's not, otherwise we would all be size 10!!

Take care and I hope you find out a way to help you lose the weight you no longer want to carry around with you!

Sorry you had a tough time at the gp's

Could you ask her to see if you're in balence in the body - when I had low thyroid my weight went up. Plus when I'm tired and sluggish I'm heavier - just not getting enough sleep can send my system off track.

best wishes xxx

Was that the only reason you went to see your GP or did you have another reason too? Just thought as someone said earlier GP's only have 7 mins (sometimes less) per consultation so generally it's one problem one appointment.

PMSL at Suejonez

I'm in Cumbria so probably not near anybody! I didn't make it clear in my op (a bad habit of mine!!) that I wanted to discuss the cause of my binge eating - I'm a veggie and don't eat a lot of pastries/cakes/fried stuff as a rule but when I get really low etc, I hit the choc. A friend suffers from depression and as this pattern has continued since the birth of my DS 2 years ago, she suggested I discussed with GP - I didn't want to be shoved out the door as I had to pluck up the courage to go in there. I hoped that if we devised some sort of healthy eating/exercise plan with support that I would have success with following it.

There are no WW groups or similar in my village, nearest is 10 miles away and I have other commitmetns the night it is on (Brownie run - the girl guide type, not the cake!!)

Anyway, thank you for the constructive advice

Clearly i am stupid.
i am fat.

my mum is clealry stupid, she is fat.
my dad is clealry stupid, he is fat.

unfortunatly we all have university degree's and all 3 of us have follwed various diets and healthy eating plans in attempts to lose weight. my father eventually went to the Dr's about it.
he was firts greeted by the sort of unhelpfull advice being dished out by Moondog and Satire.

thankfully after a few months he returned and found a locum Dr. he sent my dad for some tests and it turns out he has Hyperthyroidism.

this condition left untreated (as it had been for some years) resluts in the patient putting on more and more weight.

so no, telling him to go home and eat less really wouldn't have helped!

Moony i really don't know what it must be like to live in your perfect world but if you care to send me your adress i'll send you sone pictures of mine, that way you may be a little more compassionate to those who don't reach your holier than thou status.

The GP could have helped as she could have referred you for CBT which has been shown to be effective in dealing with the sort of behaviour you describe.

Clearly your GP went to the Moondog school of weight loss. So there you have it.

I'd look around for a CBT therapist or something- I know lighterlife use CBT as part of their weight loss programme, but they only take people whose BMI is above a certain level (no idea what level that is). Might be worth checking them out though.

I think yur doctor was wrong,mine is very understanding,the way i look at it.Its not just about eat less,its like saying to an alcoholic,well your kitchen cupboards are full of drink,but only have a couple of drinks a day,or to a drug addict,here is a bag of cocaine,but only have a small amount,they cant and in a way,its the same for some people with food,Some say well dont buy this or that but food is everywhere,and its worse when you have children and the goodies they like,and there is so much choice in the shops.Also boredom or comfort eating,i have dieted since i had the children,i know all the answers,but im still fat,why ? probably no will power,i love sweets lol..

I went to the Dr's to say I have done really well and lost 3 stone - but my cholesterol is very high and all the foods I am supposed to eat affect my IBS - can I see a dietician

GP - no

Changed GP

GP - yes
I went to the dietician - who said I have a bit too much sugar and a bit too little Fruit & veg

But not to worrry as if my IBS is in balance - you don't want to go changing anything suddenly - just alter a tiny bit each week - I'm doing great now - but my Cholesterol is still sky hign - but dietician says don' worry

So there are nice GP's out there

SEE A DIFFERENT DOCTOR!

Obesity is fast catching up to smoking as a leading cause of preventable death.

Needs to be taken as seriously as smoking, too.

MamaG, agree with recent posts that you should change your GP, especially in light of your binge eating.

I think its appaling that you didn't get any support.

fattiemama, you are right to be upset about the suggestion that fat people are thick - what a stupid pahetic sterotype

For anyone else on here who happens to be slim - (and judgemental/mocking of people who are not)well done (round of applause) but I'll bet that other areas of your life might not neccesarily bear up to too much scrutiny

Unfortunately changing GP is not an option as I live in a very rural community and there just isn't another surgery - there is, however, another Doc at the surgery so I'll ask to see him in future.

Thanks for replies