Week 6 - New Year Low Carb Bootcamp _ Where I start to wave my big stick again

[BIWI]

Morning all

Here it is - come and confess all

Now. Three things have come to my attention.

1. There is a lot of baking going on. Sweet things and bread substitutes.

Please remember that we are trying to avoid sweet things and that we are trying to avoid using artificial sweeteners.

1. A lot most of you are falling off the wagon - either 'accidentally' () or because situations arise where you have not planned ahead or deliberately.

This is not a very forgiving WOE. Lapses/cheats like this will have a big impact - at the very least you will not see any weight loss for a while - most likely, though, you will see a gain of around 3-7lbs. You really have to plan ahead and make sure you do everything you can to stay focused and avoid the carbs. Going out for a meal or to dinner at a friends does mean that you have to think about what's going to be on offer. You cannot assume that low carb options are going to be available (although most restaurants should be fairly easy to navigate).

1. There is a lot of moaning about seeing a weight gain or not losing.

May I refer you to 1 and 2 above?

Please, please, please go back to Bootcamp/Bootcamp Light rules. They are there for a reason!

I can tell you that almost every time someone posts "I don't know what to do, the scales aren't moving for me/I've gained half a stone and I don't know why, because I'm being really good/have been following the rules" this is a massive signal that, actually, they haven't.

Fat is key.
Water is key.
Too much alcohol will stop weight loss.
Dairy - especially cream and cheese - can be an issue for many (yoghurt is better tolerated)
Artificial sweeteners are to be avoided.
Fruit should be severely restricted.

We have only five weeks of Bootcamp left, including this week. Let's get serious and back on track.

Actually, novelty, one of the really good things I have found about this woe is that I don't feel guilty for eating. If you're not eating carbs all the time, you're not going to get fatter and your body will process the food. So when you stop eating carbs again tomorrow, your body will sort itself out. I guess it's the every day carbs that are really bad. But best hide from biwi and her big stick, just in case...

It's the only advantage of DCs being grown up, that I don't have to make things that tempt me if I don't want to. I luuurve pancakes with sugar and fresh lemon and know, if I had made any I would be inspired to pig out so DH and I are the sad people who didn't have pancakes!

I'm going to try not to make up for it at the chinese meal tomorrow

Thanks kitchen. I do feel ashamed of myself though as just yesterday I was talking about how I'd recognised I was having these weekly slip ups but how I thought I was slowly conquering them.

Being surrounded by ten people eating pancakes (non LC ones) was just too much though. I made my own cream cheese ones - then caved. Everyone on this thread just seems so remarkably STRONG.

Fab thank you Noel and JustasmallGless you are right about the onions and carrots, I have cottoned onto those. I cannot bring myself to fork out for shallots when onions are £2 for 5kg in Lidl so I am just steering clear of onions for a bit or using v sparingly. Leeks are being enjoyeed a lot here.

I think DH thinks its all a big game of how many different incarnations of broccoli and cauliflower can I serve for dinner

Ivor I have made the crustless quiche in a muffin tray for lunches tomorrow. They look very sweet, like cakes but not! Have got leek, broccoli, green pepper, ham and cheese in mine with the egg and cream custard. Looking forward to them.

Right so this is my intention for tomorrow:
B: scrambled eggs and garlic butter mushrooms, coffee, greek yog
L: quiche muffin things, with either cucumber & celery or broccoli & cabbage depending on how cold I feel!
D: A kind of creamy bake with chicken breast, bit of gammon, leeks, broccoli, cauliflower all in a cream & cream cheese sauce with cheese on top, poss cabbage on the side. Yoghurt if feeling puddingy. Coffee.

Fingers crossed.

Oh Novelty, I hope you enjoyed it! What;s done is done, chin up and start again tomorrow. Pancake day is a cruel temptation but it won't come again for a year so you are safe from that one!

Thanks Bessie - that's true, I am generally very good when just cooking at home, but when I'm out or round other people's houses that's when I really struggle.

I do always climb back onto the wagon and that's why I've managed to lose ten pounds I guess - but I'm just disappointed that whenever faced with food offerings, I still struggle to say no.

Novelty

No shouting here but try and work it why you ate them?
Dd you really want them?
Did you feel peer pressure to eat them as a social thing?
Did you actually enjoy them?

Now get back on the wagon chuck and get drinking that water!

Novelty have you read the idiot proof diet? Very good for emotional eating

mumat39 I don't have a blog I'm afraid. You'll have to put up with my witterings on here!
I've got a Pinterest board if you are interested in that with some low carb recipes on?

Gless all good questions, but although I do sometimes emotionally eat, I think the reason I find it hard to resist things is often greed.

I have a friend who was there this eve who is on Dukan (we had a nice argument about low fat vs high fat) and he was eating an omelette and told me to resist the pancakes. I just ignored him!

Novelty do you feel 'deprived' when you see others eating carby foods?

One of the biggest mind shifts I had to make with this WOE is that I'm not deprived, I'm not 'missing out'. Yes I liked the taste of some of that stuff, but I didn't like the effects they had on me so I'm choosing not to eat it. It's a choice

Evening all and welcome to all the newcomers!

Made pancakes for the DC and managed not to have a single one. Will treat myself to the cream cheese ones for breakfast tomorrow (am too full tonight - had roast chicken with leeks and celeriac and no room now for pancakes. I know I could just have had the pancakes but really felt like the chicken).

Pretty yes the first lot of toenails the shoes were too small - bloody Nike fitted me and didn't tell me they were meant to be bigger. But then got a whole size bigger and still lost toenails so am just not going to run long distances again. Lavenderbriggs it took me a while to work up to six laps - this time last year I couldn't even run a mile - did the C25K and then built up from there.

The thing is though, it's probably fine to have something like that once a week, especially after you finish losing weight and are maintaining. God knows I'm no expert but I would have thought that if you are only doing it once a week you have already successfully changed your woe to some extent. I expect that as you get more used to this woe you will do it less and ultimately not really do it at all. If the woe is working for you.

And yes.....I really enjoyed them. The nutella and cream ones with maple syrup were divine.

As spiltthetea says - it's a particularly cruel day for the LC'er, and thankfully once a year - but as my other slip ups show - why is everyone else on this thread so strong and I'm so weak?

Hmmm

Tricky then.

If you are going to do it and have no repercussions(I find I have a bad stomach of I eat carbs now so just not worth it generally) then I would say cheat mindfully. You are going to knock yourself it of ketosis eating sugar and when the scales don't move again you may think again.

Remember nothing tastes as good as being slim feels

Bessie you're right - I am getting close to maintenance now so I've been able to get away with the weekly slip ups. However - I do have a tendency to be a bit of a waste disposal unit for food. I'm short and was 140lb plus last August, and am now down to 125 lb after months of low GIing, then LCing. I realise this is no longer overweight.

However, I worry that my tendency to gobble food / lack of self control will just see me go back there. Which I don't want!

The support on here has been amazing though, and if I read The End of Overeating, I might conquer my inner gobbler. I hope!

all for your support!

Yes interesting point about the choice. And also, the points upthread about not trying to substitute too many copies of carby things into the WOE, especially baking things - until one has fully embraced the WOE.

I've got to the point where actually I don't really like carby foods - I am quite happy not to have them and don't (but never really did) have a sweet tooth (though I do love pudding wine). It's the wine that I find a challenge.

Briffa is quite right that if one allows oneself vodka and lime rather than wine one is much less likely to drink as much - so I've been doing that and drinking an awful lot less - but I do still really, really like wine.

novelty : I ended up making our pancakes (for dh and ds) at 9.30 (had been to see a film and then dh had to go out and then I realised that he needed to get more milk for the pancakes...). I was going to make cream cheese ones for me but it was getting so late......

but I did stop at three

Currently drinking a glass of water

Novelty Don't beat yourself up about the odd cheat.

I was once told that losing weight is like a journey; some travel on a motorway, direct route, top speed and no stops where others go by a scenic route, slower and with detours or stops en route. The motorway folk have no fun on the journey but get to the destination quickly where the scenic route people take longer getting there but enjoy themselves on the way.

I am definitely scenic but, like you, cannot pin it to emotional eating

Am very impressed at all the runners. You are a fit lot on this thread!

Gless yes, sensible advice. I think what scares me is the cheats are often not planned but are me just 'going a bit mad' with food. Probably not technically bingeing, but definitely me having a problem with the 'off' switch (or lack of one) and it's that lack of self-control that worries me.

I could never understand how people managed to do calorie controlled diets for instance. This WOE is definitely for me, but I just need to develop a more healthy attitude to portions and to 'moderation' when I do cheat, I guess .

Novelty, I fell off a few times today.

I ended up having about 3 scotch pancake sized pancakes. I also decided to try and bake some bread today as the usual stuff I get for my dc isn't available for about 10 days and I prefer the dc to eat toast in the morning rather than Rice Krispies.

Anyway, the bread was a disaster as it didn't rise or cook properly. I still couldn't stop eating some of the warm crust after it had cooled a bit. I chucked it away so can do no more damage. Also all the pancakes are gone, thank goodness. I had a slight headache after eating the pancakes but unfortunately didn't feel too unwell.

I knew I'd not be able to stop myself once I to a taste for something sweetened with sugar. :(

Back on track tomorrow for me. Fingers crossed today won't have derailed me too much.

I feel like I've let not just myself, but everyone down. Sorry.

Mumat - yes - I feel like I'm letting the thread down too!

Especially as I'm getting so close to maintenance, I feel like it should be easier, but it doesn't feel easier. And it's dangerous cos if you don't develop good habits now, you'll just undo all the good work!

Timid that's a lovely analogy - beating myself up about the scenic route is really pointless (and not that healthy). If I'm going to be slower, maybe I should at least enjoy the view!

Sorry for hijacking thread though - many many for all the support. I do feel so much better after the pep talks.

Mumat I've had to throw food away before so that I don't eat it.

Noel yes I do feel deprived - although I rationally agree totally with LCHF and I know that the food I crave is rubbish.

I think I've had 35 years of being addicted to sugar and maybe it's just going to take a little longer than a few months to relearn that my body doesn't need it, and is much better off without.

I find being able to eat cream stops me wanting other, carby foods. Whipped cream on cream cheese pancakes or an oopsie roll is nice.

Bessie yes, cream is a bit of a godsend on this WOE.

I have a pot of clotted cream sitting in the fridge, bought specially to treat myself with when required!