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Week 3 - New Year Low Carb Bootcamp - Full Fat or Light?

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BIWI · 20/01/2013 17:08

So we've completed the hardest part of Bootcamp. Now is the time, if you wish, to relax things a little, and to move on to Bootcamp Light.

On the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness you will - after weighing in, of course - find the rules for Bootcamp Light. However, as I know some people can't access the spreadsheet easily, here they are:

Bootcamp Light

1. Eat when you?re hungry - if you?re not hungry, don?t eat
In Bootcamp, you should have been eating three meals a day. The point of this being to ensure that you got used to eating proper meals, and so that your blood sugar is regulated and stable. Having achieved that, you can now relax this a little bit. If you find you?re not hungry - which often happens, because ketosis suppresses your appetite - then don?t force yourself to eat. But don?t let yourself get so hungry that you make inappropriate choices! Always make sure you have plenty of low carb food to access quickly, if you need to.

2. Avoid processed food
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals ? meat/fish/eggs.
You may include processed meats like bacon or (low carb) sausages, smoked salmon, smoked mackerel, gammon - but please don?t have these at every meal or every day. As well as being highly processed they often contain undesirable ingredients, can add unnecessary extra carbs into your diet, and often include sugar.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat helps to keep you feeling fuller for longer. Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet and has too many carbs), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat ? e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where the bulk of your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. You don?t have to weigh/count carbs ? this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you?re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

Beware that some of the veg on the allowed list can be surprisingly high in carbs once you make up a portion of it ? this is because they are denser, and therefore you tend to use more ? compare, for example, 100g of onion with 100g lettuce! Keep your focus on those veg which contain 3g carbs per 100g and use these as the focus of your meals. Use those over 3g per 100g sparingly.

5. You may eat some dairy
You should aim to include plenty of butter on this WOE. Fry with it and add it to your vegetables. And if you know that dairy doesn?t impede your weight loss you may eat cheese, but don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best.

If you?ve been cutting out tea/coffee, you can re-introduce this ? but just be careful how much milk you end up drinking. You can end up adding a lot of extra carbs this way.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
Even if you?re drinking more tea/coffee than in Bootcamp, this is still a non-negotiable part of this WOE. And the more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. Water helps to flush out the ketones that your body will product ? so flushing out the fat. However, drinking this amount of water can affect your electrolyte balance; you need to make sure that you get plenty of sodium, magnesium and potassium. There is less need to worry about restricting salt if you?re eating a low carb diet. Good sources of potassium are salmon and avocado and spinach is a good source of magnesium. You could also consider supplements if you have an issue with this.

7. You may drink some alcohol
But restrict this to once or twice a week max. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine. Absolutely no beer/lager, cider, liqueurs, cocktails or full sugar mixers. You can drink spirits with artificial sweeteners, but bear in mind that we are attempting to avoid all things artificial!

Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for your body, and it will use this over and above anything else that is available to it. Therefore, even if you?re following the diet absolutely to the letter, including alcohol can prevent weight loss.

8. You may eat some fruit
Strawberries, raspberries, blackberries and rhubarb are all fine. But please ? only once a day at the very most, and keep an eye on your portion sizes. Just for information ? these are the carb counts:

Rhubarb ? 0.8g carbs per 100g (but don?t forget you will need to sweeten this ? and not with sugar!)
Blackberries ? 4.4g carbs per 100g
Raspberries ? 4.6g carbs per 100g
Strawberries ? 6g carbs per 100g
Blueberries - 6.4g carbs per 100g (although this is a bit controversial - I have had differing carb counts from various sources - some saying as much as 12g carbs per 100g)

9. You may eat some nuts/seeds
Nuts/seeds can make a good snack. BUT it is incredibly easy to overdo it, and you can end up eating your bodyweight in carbs. As an occasional snack they are great, but keep it occasional and keep the portions to a small handful at most.

Macadamias are not only luscious, but they are very low in carbs.

Here are some carb counts ? BUT ? check the back of your packets as I don?t know if these are for raw or roasted nuts:

Pistachios 4.6g carbs per 100g
Macadamias 4.8g carbs per 100g
Pecans 5.8g carbs per 100g
Almonds 6.9g carbs per 100g
Peanuts 7.1 g carbs per 100g
Cashews 18.1g carbs per 100g

10. Avoid artificial sweeteners
The aim of Bootcamp was to help reduce the stranglehold that sugar has on us ? and to curb your sweet tooth. But it does make some things difficult, e.g. desserts at a dinner party, and it is undeniable that it can be enjoyable ? occasionally ? to eat something sweet. However, restrict such goodies. For some people, artificial sweeteners can impede weight loss.

OP posts:
Jacaqueen · 21/01/2013 19:27

Thanks got the info on the almond milk. I will get some to try in coffee.

I had to throw my last lot of flax seeds out as they had been opened for ages and smelled a bit rank. Never thought about freezing them. DOH.

BlackAffronted · 21/01/2013 19:38

For those who asked for the curried mince recipe, its here on the recipe thread, you may need to scroll down a bit. Was a big hit! My kids loved it.

BlackAffronted · 21/01/2013 19:39

I didnt transfer to a slow cooker though, I just left on low on the hob for an hour.

TaffyandTeenyTaffy · 21/01/2013 19:53

Lots of good losses this week.

Today has been ok for me
B - egg and mushrooms in butter
L - chicken, ham and creamy blue cheese salad with mayo
D - chicken thighs, roast veg and creamy onion and blue cheese sauce
2 of my 4 pints of water and 2 coffees so far.

BIWI - leftovers for breakfast?.... I dont have leftovers - thats why I am this weight Grin Good idea in theory though!

catinboots · 21/01/2013 20:10

Yep - I just made little piles about the size of a 10p on a silicone baking sheet. You could use grease proof paper I presume.

MrsHerculePoirot · 21/01/2013 20:34

herecomesthsun the link to the spreadsheet is in BIWI's OP - the link is in the first few lines. You are added for this week.

Choos - yes you have put across everyone's weight for this week, best just to change your own columns next time I reckon! If will just look like people weighed in and lost no weight this week, even if they didn't weigh. I am sure Willie will be able to fix it!! I thought about taking all the stay the samers out, but then some people did stay the same so decided to leave it!!!!!

thenightsky and bullet added your 1 lb losses to the spreadsheet for you.

Does anyone else need their weight adding whilst I am here?

Womenandchickensfirst · 21/01/2013 20:46

Hello everyone. 1lb off for me. Sitting here drowning the water, as I haven't really had a chance during the day...sitting in clients houses and I don't like to use their toilets! I cocked up a bit today - small breakfast of one egg and some left over sausage, then a salad sat in my car in the snow Sad, and was so hungry when I left work I drove to the nearest Asda, bought some cooked chicken from the counter AND ATE A LEG IN THE CAR.
Planning to be super good this week, as no social events to derail me. Am keeping the faith that this will work, and it's not been a chore to do so far.

SavoirFaire · 21/01/2013 20:51

Just work avoiding checking in. It's ffffing freezing here this evening. Brrrr.
Today:

B: 2 eggs, butter
L: very dull salad - well really 2 limp bits of lettuce, some, ham, a bit of cheese and some cucumber
D: No-spag bol (with courgette instead of pasta). Was lovely.

I had forgotten all about oopsie rolls. Probably for the best. But I may just remind myself how to make one...

ChoosandChipsandSealingWax · 21/01/2013 20:55

Mrs HP yes that's why I didn't just move them back again - I couldn't remember which were the ones I'd moved, and which actually had STS, so thought best just to keep it consistent - and never touch it again! Blush

Am much hungrier today. Worrying that Vietnamese on friday knocked me out of ketosis (difficult when you don't know exactly what's I. It, and I did have my own body weight a fair amount of tofu. Or it could just be that I am making up for the days when I was too queasy to feel like eating.

ChoosandChipsandSealingWax · 21/01/2013 20:59

Oh and
B eggs and ham, with leftover cauliflower and Brussels sprouts as my veg - ok a bit weird, but strangely good
S pork scratchings and olives
L chicken miso broth with kale and spinach
S olives, cheese, slice of leftover roast beef
D baked fennel with mozarella and have made an aubergine parmigiana mainly for DH which I will have a little bit of and scrape the tomato off

ToomuchWaternotWine · 21/01/2013 21:01

Very restrained mrshp I was all puffed up and ready to write a diatribe biwi style with bold n caps n everything, then MN went offline. Probably just as well as choos might have given me a kicking Wink

B 1 bacon, 2 sausages, a few mushrooms
L 2 eggs scrambled with some grated cheese on spinach
S black pepper pistachios (filched from DH s graze box)
D beef casserole

womenandchickensfirst what is wrong with that? Chicken is a perfect LC food and you made a great choice given what else you could have grabbed! Just hope it was the plain type, as some of the BBQ ones etc will probably have sugar in the coatings. Remember, don't go hungry, that's the point of bootcamp! I have scoffed chicken, cold meat, babybels, pâté goodness knows what else in my car at the end of a long Sunday after work, and still lose weight!

MrsHerculePoirot · 21/01/2013 21:05

choos don't worry! It isn't like you changed people's weights - it will all be fine!

B - three bits if bacon
S - cheese and a couple of mini pepperamis
D - leftover lamb kleftiko, green beans and courgettes
Yoghurt and vanilla powder

Doshusallie · 21/01/2013 21:08

Made the egg-fried cauliflower rice from the low carb recipe section for tea tonight. It was lovely. Cooked it with green pepper, but I used 2 eggs instead of 1. Only used half a head (of a very large) cauliflower, and it made loads.

lapetitedame · 21/01/2013 22:10

Well done everyone on your losses. Have stayed the same despite having showed a loss Friday...that would be the wine and cake for birthday celebs this weekend. Mind you it was low carb cheese cake ...cheeses,lemon juice and zest and a little sweetener. Didn't eat base but must experiment base with almonds or something in future.
Those of you looking a little something to substitute for pudding....try a little marscapone or ricotta mixed with a little sweetener (takes v little to sweeten after a period of no sugar) To this add some vanilla, instant coffee, almond essence or green and black cocoa. Maybe not everyone's taste but it does the job and you only need a little.

Onwards and downwards!

Ps Can someone remind me why I bought coconut oil? Confused

Collywibbles · 21/01/2013 22:21

Lapetite apparently it is really nice stirred into coffee and you can cook with it (I think). If that fails rub it on your hands to make them nice and soft!

lapetitedame · 21/01/2013 22:45

Collywibbles thank you...will try a little in my morning cuppa...bit pricey for hand cream! Smile Does it have any health benefits I wonder....

Collywibbles · 21/01/2013 22:46

Don't blame me if it tastes rank! I haven't tried it yet - prefer my double cream lol!

Bessie123 · 21/01/2013 22:48

It's nice but greasy

Valdeeves · 21/01/2013 23:19

Hi everyone,
Had another day around the house and garden as snow to thick to plough urban buggy through. Baby DD woke me up at 1am then up amd down from 3 - 4 as shes got a really bad cold. I felt like a zombie and my mood was black then my DS trampled around the garden pretending to be the Gruffalo's Child complete with Scottish accent (the kids amazing mimic) and I stopped being miserable.
Breakfast : Devilled eggs
Lunch: sage butter chicken with garden, watercress, spinach, rocket salad.
Dinner: fried egg, two bacon rashers and celeriac chips.
Gallons of water - OMG I live on the loo and I'm so thirsty.

ChoosandChipsandSealingWax · 21/01/2013 23:42

Ooh lapetite loving the idea of almond-based cheesecake!

Also for those of you now entering Bootcamp lite I found a recipe on an american low-carb site for low-carb Pina Coladas (think I still would prefer Wine but sure I will happily experiment!)

yes the coconut oil is a bit greasy but OK - good way of getting extra fat in if you don't feel like it in your food.

MrsHP and Toomuch thank you for not beating me up and apologies again Blush

ChoosandChipsandSealingWax · 21/01/2013 23:43

Ooh val crossposted - that sage chicken sounds luvverly!

BIWI · 21/01/2013 23:47

Val - if you're so thirsty, but drinking loads of water, it's a sign that you need to up your sodium/potassium/magnesium. Add salt to your food, eat salmon/spinach and avocado.

OP posts:
Valdeeves · 22/01/2013 04:29

Thanks BIWI - funnily enough I had alot of salmon last week and I had spinach in my salad that day. It's me that's the problem not the diet as I don't have enough salt in my blood naturally - I know it's not right at the mo as I feel it.
Will up my salt intake tomorrow and let you know if it helps.

Valdeeves · 22/01/2013 04:31

The sage butter chicken was amazeballs! I mixed it with garlic and let the chicken skin crisp up. I think it's on the recipe thread or something similar gave me the idea!

Valdeeves · 22/01/2013 04:33

Btw - can you grow your own celeriac? Sorry absolutely no idea when it's comes to gardening?

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