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Low Carb Bootcamp - Week 12 (but Newbies always welcome!)

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BIWItheBold · 02/07/2012 08:04

Wow! Three months almost completed. I'm amazed what everyone has achieved, and really impressed how many people are still here!

They say it takes 100 days to make something a habit, and by the end of this week we will pretty much have reached that. Hopefully eating this way will have become much more 'normal' for us all now.

As requested, I have change the title of the thread, so that others interested in low carbing can find us more easily. I will also re-post the rules and the list of allowed veg:

The Carnivore Rules

1.Eat three, proper meals a day.
You must eat breakfast. It doesn?t have to be a lot, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you?re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn?t be hungry. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack)

2.Avoid processed food
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals ? meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, e.g. Atkins Daybreak bars.

3.Eat lots of fat.
Eating fat helps you to burn fat. Honestly! Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat ? e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4.Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food ?
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. You don?t have to weigh/count carbs ? this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you?re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat

*5.Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited). It can impede weight loss for some people. If you are still drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. You may eat cheese, but don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best.

6.You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day.
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink

7.No alcohol
If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8.No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada.

9.No nuts/seeds
Whilst these are really good to snack on later - it can be too easy to start snacking on these - and before you know it, all your carbs have gone on nuts. Seriously - in bootcamp - don't do it to yourself.

10.No sugar or artificial sweeteners

Allowed veg

Don?t eat any veg unless it?s on this list, and try and focus on eating those that are under 3g carbs per 100g:

Veg (raw)Carbs per 100g
Mushrooms0.4
Watercress0.4
Spinach0.8
Celery0.9
Broccoli1.1
Asparagus 1.4
Cucumber1.5
Lettuce1.7
Fennel1.8
Courgettes1.8
Cauliflower1.9
Avocado flesh1.9
Turnip2
Pumpkin2.2
Runner beans2.3
Swede2.3
Celeriac2.3
Bean sprouts2.5
Green pepper2.6
Baby sweetcorn2.7
Aubergine2.8
Leeks2.9
Okra3
Tomato3.1
Mangetout3.3
Shallots3.3
Brussels sprouts3.5
French beans4.7
Cabbage5
Yellow pepper5.3
Carrots6
Orange or red pepper6.4
Ginger (peeled)7.2
Butternut squash7.5
Onions7.9

Veggie Rules

Only slightly adapted from BIWI's but best to take notice of the changes if you're vegetarian.

1.Eat three, proper meals a day.
You must eat breakfast. It doesn?t have to be a lot, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you?re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn?t be hungry. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack)

2.Avoid processed food
Focus on pure, natural ingredients as the basis for your meals. Vegetarian Sausages and Burgers are ok in small quantities, but check the carb count as some can be very high. Avoid foods marketed as 'Low Carb' such as Atkins Daybreak Bars, etc.

3.Eat lots of fat.
Eating fat helps you to burn fat. Honestly! Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4.Make sure you are eating plenty of vegetables and salads with your food ?
This is where most of your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. You don?t have to weigh/count carbs ? this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you?re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat

5.Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited). It can impede weight loss for some people. If you are still drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. You may eat cheese, but don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best.

6.You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day.
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink

7.No alcohol
If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8.No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada.

9.Beware of Nuts and Seeds.
Nuts are a very good way to include more fat and protein in your diet, however some are very high carb (e.g. Cashews). Stick to small amounts of Almonds, Brazil Nuts, Dried Coconut, Walnuts, Seeds and Peanut Butter, but check the ingredients, many supermarket brands have sugar added.

10.No sugar or artificial sweeteners

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SingingTunelessly · 08/07/2012 13:29

Ahh Moonshine sorry. Fingers crossed that you get some answers soon. Good luck. Keep us posted if you can.

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aroomofherown · 08/07/2012 14:13

Hi can I join? I've tried Dukan before and felt great, but always fell off when it came to alcohol or going out. So here's to another attempt at LC.

I'm on day 2 - yesterday was omelette and smoked salmon for brekkie, salad and olives and salami and mozzarella for lunch, dinner thai green chicken curry with no rice (but sweet potato - bad?). Oh, and some vodka with fizzy water and ginger cordial. Oops.

Today - omelette with salad, baked trout with salsa verde and green beans, leftover green chicken currry. I've also made some humous which I'll eat with veges later.

Does that sound about right? Perhaps drop the salami and sweet potato. What about humous?

I've got about 2 stone to lose and I want it GONE!

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SingingTunelessly · 08/07/2012 14:35

Hi aroom and welcome!

Definitely no sweet potato while on Bootcamp. Green beans can be carby so watch portion control. Hummus to me is the food of the devil, I loathe it so not sure about that one. Although isn't it made with some sort of beans? I would guess it could be quite carby and I know when the rest of the family (who love it) have it portion control doesn't seem to exist with it!

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aroomofherown · 08/07/2012 14:42

Thanks SingingTunelessly. Oh. I'll have to pick out the sweet potato tonight then Blush

Hummus is made from chickpeas - are they carby? Please say no!!

Also, what do people have for breakfast? I normally have oats (no milk, just water and dried apricots) at work, can't imagine having time for breakfast at home. Any tips for a quick brekkie?

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Thegoddessblossom · 08/07/2012 14:58

Breakfast (I got up for it after all) = 2 large celery sticks one with cheese the other with ham

Lunch: Salad with avocado, coleslaw and a warm boiled egg on the top. Delish.

Hi a room - breakfast options are eggs of any kind, last night's leftovers, greek yoghurt.

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SingingTunelessly · 08/07/2012 15:06

Pretty sure chickpeas aren't allowed on Bootcamp! Think they should be added when you're at goal weight and into maintenance. I'm sure one of the others will be along to tell me if I've got that wrong.

I have no problem with breakfast simply because I adore eggs and could eat them forever. Blush. One tip is to break free from thinking of certain food as 'breakfast'. Have you seen the recipe for pizza quiche? That is delicious. I sometimes eat left over shepherds pie for breakfast as well. Or how about full fat yoghurt with vanilla essence? DH has this with rhubarb and loves it. Or cheese, ham etc? Bit continental but without bread.

Honestly when you really get into this woe it is so easy. I've found my whole attitude to food has changed and for the better. Smile

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aroomofherown · 08/07/2012 15:07

Ooh lovely, I'll try yoghurt for breakfast. Maybe I'll boil some eggs in the evening and take one with me for when I get to work with some tomatoes.

Work snacks: celery, cucumber and one chopped carrot.
Work lunch: salad with tuna or chicken

This I can manage. Dinner I can manage. Drinking loads of water I can manage.

What about snacks? I'm really not good with hunger at work. Seafood sticks? Too carby?

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aroomofherown · 08/07/2012 15:11

sorry x-post.

I'll give the hummous away then it looks like!

I thought ham/cheese were limited as processed? I adore ham, cheese, eggs, meat, seafood, vegetables..this really is the woe for me, just have to get my head around what I can eat and get organised.

Shepherd's pie - potatoes?  Are these not forbidden?!

Will check out the recipe for pizza quiche - thanks.

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SharonGless · 08/07/2012 15:23

Try sour cream and chive dips with crudités as snacks if you like houmous.
On the recipe thread is shepherds pie with celeriac mash instead of potatoes

I have really found it useful to post daily what I am eating and the support on these threads to keep you on track is amazing.

Ww and slimming both work on principle of food diary and regular meetings- all of which you have on these threads at any time of day of night not just once s week

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ILoveStripeySocks · 08/07/2012 15:28

For those who need a dessert, have you tried truffles? Its just dark choc, salt & double cream, plus a little coccoa powder to dust. Its a heston recipe that I make for the school fetes, and they always go down well!

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aroomofherown · 08/07/2012 15:48

Wow that recipe thread is exciting! Think I'm going to skip the tennis and head to Sainsbury's.

I'd forgotten about cheese. Halloumi. Cheese sause. Cream. Oh my.

Can I really eat this stuff?

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BettySuarez · 08/07/2012 15:48

Wonder how many carbs per truffle? Brilliant way to eek out some dark chocolate though Grin

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happygolucky0 · 08/07/2012 15:54

Hello all

I have been following something like this as am convinced that I have candida.
The carbs are lovely but it doesn't feel good after with heart burn ect. So hope you dont mind if I come and join you. I would love to lose a few stone along the way as well as doing it for health reasons.

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JaxTellerIsMyFriend · 08/07/2012 16:38

welcome happy if you follow 'the rules' you will definitely lose a few stone alone the way. Grin

mmm truffles, might do some dark chocolate mousse for dessert on Tuesday evening, Ive got some friends coming for dinner and was trying to wrack my brain what to make that wasnt too carby. Needless to say they are all very skinny slim.

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JaxTellerIsMyFriend · 08/07/2012 16:39

oops, hadnt finished - slim but love their food. They eat lots of food and cant quite comprehend my low carb way of eating - but they do try, but when they cook its all low fat this and low fat that.

They will get the shock of their life when I use cream, butter and red meat! Grin

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SharonGless · 08/07/2012 16:39

Happygolucky all welcome BIWI our leader is away this weekend but the rules are at top of thread. I would advise meal
Plan your week this week, have low carb snacks at the ready and drink lots of water. Day 4-5 some people suffer with carb withdrawal symptoms but once through that everyone reports feeling tons better. You will be weeing a lot though with all the water Wink

Read the recipe threads and post as much as you want for advice/support

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Amaxapax · 08/07/2012 17:21

Well, I had a wonderful birthday full of lots of cakes, Champagne and wine. Didn't feel a bit bad about any of it and just enjoyed the day. I'm feeling very lucky that I have such lovely friends and a fantastic fiancé who all worked really hard to make sure I didn't spend my 30th weeping quietly into a pillow, which was my initial plan.

Possibly the best bit is that I awoke this morning not feeling too bad at all, had my usual boiled eggs and mayo for breakfast and have not been tempted by the leftover cakes in the refrigerator, which I'll be binning anyway. Just about to roast a chicken to be used in a warm bacon and chicken salad for dinner.

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mummyduff · 08/07/2012 19:34

Welcome Happy and Amax I am so pleased you had a fab Birthday!

I am feeling very bloated today, prob all the pimms from yesterdayBlush trying to drink lots and lots of water to repair damage!

Bacon & Avacado for lunch
Pork with green beans for dinner

really want chocolate!!!!!!!!!!!1

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Thegoddessblossom · 08/07/2012 19:44

Roast chicken with salad prawns baby toms and coleslaw.

2 coffees with cream.

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duende · 08/07/2012 19:47

Low carb diet reduces risk of cancer? An interesting article here :
weeksmd.com/2012/07/cancer-curbed-by-low-carb-diet/

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duende · 08/07/2012 19:59

Sorry, forgot to convert the link:
weeksmd.com/2012/07/cancer-curbed-by-low-carb-diet/

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SharonGless · 08/07/2012 20:50

Duende, thanks for that link- good to have positive medical studies.

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SharonGless · 08/07/2012 20:51

Amapax, glad you enjoyed your birthday guilt free and spoiled just as you should be!

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Halbanoo · 08/07/2012 21:06

Ooooh...Can I play along?

I lost a lot of weight a long, long time ago doing low carb (something like 40 pounds) but a marriage and a baby later I've managed to gain it all back and then some. I've tried going back to Weight Watchers route, along with a Couch2fiveK running plan but have been playing with the same 10 pounds for two years now. Very frustrating.

So I'm a week into low-carbing again and feeling great. I can literally see my belly bloat starting to disappear already. I have forgotten how nice it is to not fixate on food all day. My cravings have totally disappeared.

Am currently on tablets for high blood pressure and hoping to be able to lower my dose with some weight loss....

Today's menu:
b:2 scrambled eggs with bacon, sliced tomato
l: avocado with sliced chicken w/mayo
d: meatballs and courgette ribbons

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SharonGless · 08/07/2012 21:40

Hi halbanoo and welcome!
Only thing I can see is tomato which is quite carby. You using fat to cook everything? Drinking lts of water? I am positively sloshing today

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