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Low Carb Bootcamp - Week 12 (but Newbies always welcome!)

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BIWItheBold · 02/07/2012 08:04

Wow! Three months almost completed. I'm amazed what everyone has achieved, and really impressed how many people are still here!

They say it takes 100 days to make something a habit, and by the end of this week we will pretty much have reached that. Hopefully eating this way will have become much more 'normal' for us all now.

As requested, I have change the title of the thread, so that others interested in low carbing can find us more easily. I will also re-post the rules and the list of allowed veg:

The Carnivore Rules

1.Eat three, proper meals a day.
You must eat breakfast. It doesn?t have to be a lot, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you?re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn?t be hungry. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack)

2.Avoid processed food
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals ? meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, e.g. Atkins Daybreak bars.

3.Eat lots of fat.
Eating fat helps you to burn fat. Honestly! Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat ? e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4.Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food ?
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. You don?t have to weigh/count carbs ? this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you?re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat

*5.Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited). It can impede weight loss for some people. If you are still drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. You may eat cheese, but don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best.

6.You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day.
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink

7.No alcohol
If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8.No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada.

9.No nuts/seeds
Whilst these are really good to snack on later - it can be too easy to start snacking on these - and before you know it, all your carbs have gone on nuts. Seriously - in bootcamp - don't do it to yourself.

10.No sugar or artificial sweeteners

Allowed veg

Don?t eat any veg unless it?s on this list, and try and focus on eating those that are under 3g carbs per 100g:

Veg (raw)Carbs per 100g
Mushrooms0.4
Watercress0.4
Spinach0.8
Celery0.9
Broccoli1.1
Asparagus 1.4
Cucumber1.5
Lettuce1.7
Fennel1.8
Courgettes1.8
Cauliflower1.9
Avocado flesh1.9
Turnip2
Pumpkin2.2
Runner beans2.3
Swede2.3
Celeriac2.3
Bean sprouts2.5
Green pepper2.6
Baby sweetcorn2.7
Aubergine2.8
Leeks2.9
Okra3
Tomato3.1
Mangetout3.3
Shallots3.3
Brussels sprouts3.5
French beans4.7
Cabbage5
Yellow pepper5.3
Carrots6
Orange or red pepper6.4
Ginger (peeled)7.2
Butternut squash7.5
Onions7.9

Veggie Rules

Only slightly adapted from BIWI's but best to take notice of the changes if you're vegetarian.

1.Eat three, proper meals a day.
You must eat breakfast. It doesn?t have to be a lot, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you?re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn?t be hungry. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack)

2.Avoid processed food
Focus on pure, natural ingredients as the basis for your meals. Vegetarian Sausages and Burgers are ok in small quantities, but check the carb count as some can be very high. Avoid foods marketed as 'Low Carb' such as Atkins Daybreak Bars, etc.

3.Eat lots of fat.
Eating fat helps you to burn fat. Honestly! Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4.Make sure you are eating plenty of vegetables and salads with your food ?
This is where most of your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. You don?t have to weigh/count carbs ? this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you?re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat

5.Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited). It can impede weight loss for some people. If you are still drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. You may eat cheese, but don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best.

6.You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day.
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink

7.No alcohol
If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8.No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada.

9.Beware of Nuts and Seeds.
Nuts are a very good way to include more fat and protein in your diet, however some are very high carb (e.g. Cashews). Stick to small amounts of Almonds, Brazil Nuts, Dried Coconut, Walnuts, Seeds and Peanut Butter, but check the ingredients, many supermarket brands have sugar added.

10.No sugar or artificial sweeteners

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JaxTellerIsMyFriend · 02/07/2012 12:20

Im back on the wagon after my weekend of naughtiness. It was fun, but back to reality now!

I am going to host a dinner party for my friends next week so any suggestions for menu ideas gratefully received. I would like something that can be prepped and mostly cooked in advance so I am not in the kitchen all evening - and it MUST include pudding. Maybe a cheesecake of some sort...

I have stevia to replace sugar and coconut flour and flaxseed to replace 'normal' flour.

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lizardqueenie · 02/07/2012 12:23

Hello BIWI & everyone

Very inspired by all of your fab losses & thr strong motivation on this thread.

Have been reading through a few of them- I'm an ex SW member myself & have had a suspicion that the word "free"
Was never really good to me- like a green flag to a very ravenous bull if that makes sense?!

I'm very interested in getting started & will prob do my online shop this evening. I just wondered how you all found your shopping bills were compared to pre- low carbing? I imagine that buying less crap actually helps to keep the cost lower (funny that!) but how does it work out buying lots if meat & fish, especially if you are used to bulking stuff up with pasta.

Very grateful for advice/ tips Smile

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NigellasGuest · 02/07/2012 12:34

I'm down 2lbs, looks like pavlova overload wasn't as bad as I thought.

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SingingTunelessly · 02/07/2012 12:45

Welcome all newbies! Hope you all come to love this woe, honestly it's fab. Just had creamy garlic mushrooms with bacon for lunch. Yum.

Ahh lorelilee Blush you're welcome. Really hope this way eating works for you, I'm SURE it will. Smile. Beware those peanuts tho they soon add up.

HavingAnOffDay - do you like Babybel cheeses? Or how about some prawns with mayo dip? Honestly it won't be long before your appetite decreases and you will become of those people that 'forget to eat' Shock. I always thought they were lying but now it happens to me some days!

Liqardqueenie, I think it is a more expensive woe but not by much and the results are so worth it.

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HavingAnOffDAy · 02/07/2012 12:51

Hi, yes love babybel & prawns so both can see those becoming snacking options. Your lunch sounds lovely, I need to get over to a recipe thread...I know I've seen one somewhere Smile

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mummyduff · 02/07/2012 12:54

HavingAnOffDAy dont forget about pork scratchings, they are fine on this WOEGrin

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BIWItheBold · 02/07/2012 13:24

Lorelilee - welcome!

Peanuts can be very carby - you need to watch those - and nuts aren't allowed in Bootcamp anyway.

Also - red onion is high in carbs. Shallots would be better.

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Creamtea1 · 02/07/2012 13:27

Just had lunch of protein shake, few pork crunch, cheese slice, salami slice, yum

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ZZZenAgain · 02/07/2012 13:36

are you doing the Atkinson diet? Because it sounds a bit like what I read for the first phase of that except you are eating more varied food.

I am thinking of having a go at the Atkinson one but I am confused, sometimes I read you can have porridge made with either water or milk (porridge with water I dunno sounds vile to me) and in other places I read NO DAIRY.

Or are you doing something totally different here?

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ZZZenAgain · 02/07/2012 13:37

arghh sorry sorry
HARCOMBE not Atkinson, Harcombe. Is this the Harcombe diet you are on here?

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WillieWaggledagger · 02/07/2012 13:43

jax I have done panna cotta (with full cream rather than half cream half milk) very successfully in the past. i have done ones with sugar for others and sweeteners for myself

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SingingTunelessly · 02/07/2012 13:49

No Zzz its BIWI's diet! Grin. As long as its meat, fish, eggs, vegetables or full fat and not processed we can eat it. It's great, come and join us.

There's no porridge on this woe until maintenance tho.

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ZZZenAgain · 02/07/2012 13:52

I am not a great fan of porridge so that is no major loss. So this is her own invention? I am impressed.
Have to cycle off somewhere with dd and then I will drag myself off to do some low carb shopping.
Are you snacking at all or just 3 meals a day?

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gofaster · 02/07/2012 14:04

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BIWItheBold · 02/07/2012 14:12

Grin

ZZZenAgain - I've been low carbing on and off for a long time - I only recently became really convinced about it after I started reading around the subject (Dr John Briffa and Gary Taubes' books in particular) - because low carbing is so much better for us, never mind that it will help us to lose weight.

I've never followed a particular plan, but have read up on Atkins, Harcombe, Clarke and Dukan. What I've put together here is based on my reading, my understanding of the principles of low carbing (which I'm prepared to admit may be limited) and my own experience of what works/doesn't work.

I also wanted to make it as easy as possible for people to follow - that's why there are just 10 rules, and a list of allowed veg. If you stick to the rules it should work really well for you, without having to weigh or count anything.

Oh, and I shout at people every so often to keep them in line which never works Grin

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HokeyCokeyPigInAPokey · 02/07/2012 14:15

Afternoon all. Have been a bit busy in RL but kept going, had a bit of a blow out on Friday, well a girls not 37 everyday!

Still managed not to go too overboard though and didn't take any chips or bread offered to me at various stages of the weekend.

Right back again now.

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PostBellumBugsy · 02/07/2012 14:19

Marks place - still low carbing. Still loving it. Smile

Welcome newbies.

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Lorelilee · 02/07/2012 14:28

Thanks BIWI. Bugger:

  1. Peanuts - I misread the pack 2.6g for 1/8 not 1/2 pack Blush.
  2. Red Onion - thought wouldn't be too bad in a small dose....


Any suggestions to have alongside the yoghurt for brekkie (other than egg..)

cheers
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BIWItheBold · 02/07/2012 14:31

Can't you eat the yoghurt on its own? That's what I do on mornings when I need something quick before my 6.45 gym appointment. I mix a small amount of vanilla extract into it. (Waitrose do one which doesn't have any sugar in it)

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BIWItheBold · 02/07/2012 14:33

Red onions have 8.6g carbs per 100g - they are even carbier than ordinary brown onions.

You probably didn't have that much, but it's worth knowing just how carby they are!

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tartiflette · 02/07/2012 14:39

Right am deeply confused re. Sweeteners. I've just been to supermarket and compared carb content per 100g of truvia (stevia), Splenda and sugar. All pretty much the same - 99g. So how can the sweeteners be ok, even in bootcamp lite/ ipd phase 2?? Please advise!
Have made the cake without either but with vanilla essence, just in case.
Well done to all losers by the way!

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Shimbo · 02/07/2012 14:47

Tartiflette, I think you need a lot less of the sweetener to get the same sweetness as you would with sugar, but not having used them myself yet someone more knowledgeable should let us all know!

Just wanted to let you know that I have found Karo coconut milk, with all the soya milks and other non-dairy milks in the supermarkets (Sainsbos, Waitrose) is absolutely yummy in coffee/tea and lower in carbs per 100ml than whole milk. That is if you like the taste of coconut!

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PostBellumBugsy · 02/07/2012 14:47

Lots of low carbers would argue that sweeteners are never ok.

I believe the way they work is that the intensity of sweetness is concentrated, so you only need a tiny sprinkling of truvia, compared with a teaspoon of sugar.

So, although you may not be taking in calories from sugar, you will probably be triggering all the bodies usual responses to sugar. There is also concern that some of the sweeteners are made of chemicals (such as amino acids in the case of aspartame based products) and the long term effects of these may not be known.

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Shimbo · 02/07/2012 14:50

Sorry that should be Kara coconut milk!

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CobOnTheCorn · 02/07/2012 14:58

I've stayed the same this week so I'm sulking. On a more positive note I haven't eaten any chocolate for 2.5 days so if I can keep going those scales will show a loss next week!

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