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Low Carb People - what do you eat for breakfast?

110 replies

Earlybird · 12/02/2012 16:33

Need some ideas to get me started please.

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Ifancyanewname · 13/02/2012 18:11

How do I get started, is there a list of high carb foods and drinks? I have no idea where they might be lurking!

MyChildDoesntNeedSleep · 13/02/2012 18:27

BIWI and JaxTeller

I haven't said fats are bad.

Processed fatty meats like sausages and bacon weren't around in caveman times as far as I know. The meat they ate was nothing like the artificially raised pumped-full-of-antibiotics-and-nasties meat we have today.

MyChildDoesntNeedSleep · 13/02/2012 18:33

I'm just a bit worried at how much bacon is recommended like some sort of superfood on these boards. Healthy it ain't!

JaxTellerIsMyFriend · 13/02/2012 21:55

I didnt say you did mychild - and it depends what sort of meat you buy to eat. If you buy from a local supplier and know where it is bred and raised then all good. If you cant or dont want to eat organic meat then any meat that isnt full of additives is fine.

JaxTellerIsMyFriend · 13/02/2012 21:58

oh and if I have sausage then it isnt full of rubbish sausage. I buy Debbie & Andrew 97% pork, gluten, wheat free - so not full of snout and sawdust. Wink

MrsLevinson · 13/02/2012 22:12

Reading with interest as my friend has just lost nearly a stone in a few weeks low carbing and I thought I'd give it a try. Can I ask, do you feel better, more energised etc for giving up the carbs?

foreverondiet · 13/02/2012 22:16

There are different versions of low carb diets. The most extreme version is extremely low carb so fruit (fruit sugars) and dairy (milk sugars) and even carby veg (carrots / parsnips) aren't allowed - the body then goes in ketosis and there are opinions that in this state the body burns fat more efficiently.

However there are other opinions that losing weight on a ketosis diet is easier as one is less likely to feel hungry as insulin levels very stable and as a result less calories are eaten, and there isn't actually anything "magical" about being in ketosis.

I do a moderate carb, moderate fat diet. You can't do low fat and low carb as you need to get calories from somewhere. So I eat healthy carbs (like fat free dairy, some fruit - mainly low sugar fruit (eg berries, apples (2 fruit a day max), and some starchy veg). I don't really eat grains though and don't eat refined sugar. Again with fat, I focus my fat intake on eating healthy fat - olive oil, avocado, oily fish, coconut oil - I do eat some saturated fat eg in chicken breasts, lean beef, egg yolk but I try to keep this to a minimum.

Various reasons for going moderate carb and moderate fat but the main one is that I was constipated on a low carb diet, it just didn't work for me.

re: dairy - high fat dairy is lower in carb than full fat....

And not a quick fix, intend to eat like this for life.

BIWI · 13/02/2012 22:39

Bacon is not something that's generally recommended - but it is allowed.

There are all manner of different low carb plans, Ifancyanewname - they all have different levels of carbs and certain foodstuffs that are allowed/not allowed - so it's worth reading up on a few.

Borrow/buy any of these:

Dr Atkins - The New Diet Revolution
Charles Clarke - The High Protein Diet
India Knight/Neris Thomas - The Idiot Proof Diet
Zoe Harcombe - The Harcombe Diet
Dr John Briffa - Escape the Diet Trap

They will give you a good idea for the theory behind low carbing, as well as the foods that you can/can't eat.

ScarfOfSexualPreference · 13/02/2012 22:49

I'm intending to use low-carb to maintain when I get close to goal weight, need all the hints and tips I can get!

foreverondiet · 13/02/2012 22:49

I'd also add the south beach book to that list if you are interested in healthy carbs, healthy fats.

JaxTellerIsMyFriend · 14/02/2012 08:45

hi forever we were on low carb thread together last year! Grin

I am doing VLCarb at the moment as I have lots to get rid of, will move on to 'phase 2' after I have dropped more weight. I will add yogurt and berry fruit then, but at the moment I dont eat fruit/sugar/carbs.

Obviously you have to make this way of eating fit in with everyday life. So I do have coffee/tea, I sometimes have Allbran for breakfast (low carb) and I sometimes make a hot chocolate pot with cream and 2 squares of VERY dark chocolate when I am in 'need'.

My DH thought this was a load of hooey - until he read scientific evidence of the whys and whats. He started doing this same time as me in January and has lost stone and a half.

BIWI · 14/02/2012 10:16

Jax - how is All Bran low carb?! According to the nutritional info on Ocado, it's 48g of carbs per 100g and 25g carbs per 40g serving! And that's before you add any mik!

JaxTellerIsMyFriend · 14/02/2012 10:19

well it isnt on the lo carb 'list' but from all the cereals it is one of the lowest carb content ones... according to DH.

BIWI · 14/02/2012 14:48

But look at those carb counts!

You may as well be eating potatoes - these are the carb counts, i.e. grams of carbs per 100g:

Potato croquettes
21.6
Potato, Frying Chips Frozen
30.3
Potato, new
17.8
Potato, old
17
Potato, Raw
15.7
Potato, roast
25.9
Potatoes, New Tinned
13.8

.... and All Bran is 48g!

RattyPatty · 14/02/2012 15:37

just been given this book

low carb, high fat & protein diet explained. Verrrrrry interesting reading.

JaxTellerIsMyFriend · 14/02/2012 16:45

hmm will be having a chat with DH. dont have it every day, just now and again... but it is obviously much higher than I thought.

CAlm down biwi Grin

MyChildDoesntNeedSleep · 14/02/2012 18:51

You do seem quite passionate, BIWI Grin

You've made me want to read up on this low carbing thing. Sounds interesting.

BIWI · 14/02/2012 20:22

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foreverondiet · 14/02/2012 20:58

Waves at Jax - even though i am maintaining not trying to lose I still wouldn't have any all bran unless I was very constipated!

I do have 10g oatbran every day dukan style though. High in soluble fibre and as I only have 10g its a small amount of carbs.

foreverondiet · 14/02/2012 21:07

Although when you look at carbs need to take the fibre off just look at the net - I suspect allbran more fibre than potatoes!

QueenStromba · 14/02/2012 22:03

The 48g will be net carbs though since that number has come from a UK source.

BIWI · 15/02/2012 09:37

Yep - the carb information was taken from the Kellogg's UK site, so it is net carbs.

I am passionate about it, because everything I have read about it convinces me that a diet based on a large proportion of carbohydrate (which is probably what most of us are encouraged to eat) is responsible for weight gain.

I think it's no coincidence that levels of obesity are increasingly hugely in the UK whilst at the same time there are more and more opportunities for us to eat carbohydrate. Just look at every high street, railway station or airport. All manner of opportunities to eat - which simply weren't there 40-50 years ago -and all high in carbohydrate. We snack constantly - and everything is carbohydrate - sandwiches, cakes, biscuits, fruit, sweets, chocolate ...

The push to eat less fat started in earnest in the 80s, yet obesity levels continue to rise. And low fat foods often contain sugar (i.e. carbohydrate) as a substitute, to make the food taste better.

Reading about the impact of carbohydrate on our blood sugar, and how it affects our appetite (i.e. increases it - we end up needing to eat more, and usually more sugar) have convinced me that too many carbohydrates are bad for us.

And that's even before you consider the implications for weight loss when you reduce carbs!

All 'diets' can be difficult - there is a level of deprivation associated with all of them. And - a word of warning/advice - a low carb diet isn't the easiest to follow, especially if you (as I am) are out and about a lot of the time. You can't just grab something to eat - fast/quick options are always carb-heavy. You have to plan your food much more carefully. You can't eat sweet stuff very easily - and even many fruits can be out of the question.

On the other hand, a good low carb diet is hugely enjoyable. What could be nicer than sitting down to a grilled steak/grilled fish, with salad and vegetables, possibly with a nice, rich creamy sauce - and to be able to use butter and cheese in your cooking? It is food that is natural, with no additives or over-processing. It makes going out for a meal much easier (unless you go to a pizza/pasta restaurant!) - you don't have to struggle to work out how many calories you're consuming, or rule out most of the menu because it will be too fatty, etc.

One of the books that has convinced me that cutting down on carbohydrate can only be a good thing is Escape the Diet Trap by Dr John Briffa. Although his stance is about dieting, it's actually a hugely informative (and well-researched) book about food and eating - and the impact of certain foods and certain diets on our bodies as well as our weight.

And as someone with a father and grandmother with late-onset diabetes, I have been convinced that carbohydrates are to be avoided!

MyChildDoesntNeedSleep · 15/02/2012 10:00

Very interesting. I think I'll look for that book in the library.

QueenStromba · 15/02/2012 10:48

I read Escape the Diet Trap at the weekend and can also wholeheartedly recommend it. It's got some interesting stuff on fat as well as carbs. Most people don't know that omega 6 which is found in high levels in sunflower oil, rapeseed oil etc is highly inflammatory. Omega 3 counteracts the effects of omega 6 so if you eat more 3 than 6 you don't get the inflammatory effects.

I also recommend Wheat Belly by William Davis - best argument ever for going gluten free.

JaxTellerIsMyFriend · 15/02/2012 11:08

I looked at All Bran again this morning - after having a long rant chat with DH last night. He had been looking at an American website - where lo carb allbran is much less than in UK...

Anyway, the 48g is bad, even taking off the fibre, its still bad, so I have decided not to eat it again. He can, he needs the fibre. Wink Besides, he doesnt have as much weight to lose as me.

Scrambled eggs for me this morning. Back on 'the wagon'