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A space to talk openly about weight loss journeys and challenges. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Starting today... 2st to lose.

999 replies

owlets · 31/05/2011 09:15

Whilst shopping with my super slim friend over the weekend I realised just how fat I feel - and getting on the scales provided proof. I've put on 2 stone - 1 stone of which has come on very recently ( think a month or two?!).
Other than looking lumpy and increasingly featureless, my legs are achy and I don't feel like I've woken up properly ever.
So, I'm going to start on the diet today. The plan is to eat lots of veg and fruits, lean meats, and limited carbs. I'm going to have 3 decent sized meals a day, and not snack unless I'm truely hungry.

I'm going to weigh myself and post on here every Tuesday. Anyone who wants to join in please do!

Starting weight; 11st 13.
(Target weight 10st so 1st 13lbs to lose)

OP posts:
madwomanintheattic · 14/10/2011 20:46

step awa y from the lolly!

i just had a wobble too - hopped onto the scales - it flashed up that i had put on 5 pounds and then stopped working.

i assume the batteries are dead. and hopefully the 5 lbs thing was just a final two fingered joke before they gave up entirely...

so now i've got to go get more batteries. and i'm faintly apprehensive about weighing in. Hmm

you have an addicition, moose. but it's probably not a bad one to have. exercise dvds is better than some of the other possibilities!

and woo hoo for the school moments. very impressive. have you had to clothes shop?

moosemama · 14/10/2011 21:28

My scales did that when the battery ran out - gave out some weird and random weights then died. Fortunately I was weighing ds1 rather than myself at the time, so I knew something was up with the scales rather than my waistline. Grin

I haven't bought many clothes yet - too poor at the moment really.

I had kept a couple of size 14 jeans from after I had dd. I was thinner after I'd had her than I was before I got pregnant, mainly because I craved healthy food, particularly apples, throughout that pregnancy (it was Chocolate Custard Doughnuts and sticky toffee pudding with ds1 and Haagen Daaz, Ben & Jerries and Galaxy with ds2 Blush). They are getting a bit too baggy now though, so might have to invest in some 12s in the next month or so - Shock but Grin Grin Grin

I have bought a couple of cheap vneck jumpers from Asda, to tide me over. Don't really want to spend too much at the moment, just in case. May ask for some clothes for Christmas though.

moosemama · 19/10/2011 10:24

Ok, thought I'd better bump the thread, seeing as I'd lost it completely.

Weight stopped dropping at the start of this week and then went up a pound. Hmm Think its from all the root veggies I ate at the beginning of the week, so major carb overload. The only other thing I can think of is it could be because I have switched my workout around by starting to do Banish Fat Boost Metabolism (did that for three days) then starting shredding again yesterday at level 1 but doing all the advanced moves. Either way, I'm hoping its just water weight and will soon evaporate! Grin

Frustratingly, I hit this week's target of 11st 8lbs last Saturday, but am now back up to 11st 9lbs and 4oz which is only 2oz down from last Friday's weigh-in. Hmm

moosemama · 21/10/2011 10:40

Is there anybody out there? Grin

Well, I am not a happy bunny this morning because I am 6oz off meeting this week's target and still weigh 2oz more than last Sunday. Basically, my weight went up a pound on Tuesday and stayed there until this morning when I dropped a few ounces - but not enough. Hmm Am hoping my body decides to do its usual and drop a bit so I at least hit target tomorrow morning.

I think its probably down to my new workout routine and muscles grabbing water though, because I am drinking gallons, but not needing the toilet as much as I would expect and have a really dry mouth. Not to mention aching in a whole load of new places. No doubt about it this BFBM 40 minute workout is, er ... challenging and I certainly work up a sweat doing it.

Have had to stop shredding for a few days, as I have a shoulder injury and can't do push ups. Mind you - I'm having to modify some of the BFBM exercises as well, as it hurts to raise my left arm above shoulder level.

Anyway, here goes:

Stats:

Starting weight 16/6: 14st 2lb
Weight 24/6: 13st 8lb
Weight 1/7: 13st 7lbs
Weight 2/7: 13st 5lbs
Weight 13/7: 13st 4lbs
Weight 14/7: 13st 1lb
Weight 21/7: 12st 13lbs
Weight 29/7: 12st 11lbs (and 6oz)
Weight 16/8: 12st 9lbs (weighed in Tues not Fri due to holidays)
Weight 19/8: 12st 8lbs
Weight 20/8: 12 st 7lbs
Weight 26/8: 12st 8lbs 4oz
Weight 2/9: 12st 6lbs
Weight 9/9: 12st 5lbs
Weight 15/9: 12st 2lbs - 2 stone off!
Weight 23/9: 12st 1lb
Weight: 30/9: 11st 13lb 6oz
Weight: 7/10: 11st 12lb 6oz
Weight: 8/10: 11st 11lb
Weight: 14/10: 11st 9lb 6oz
Weight: 21/10: 11st 8lb 6oz

Next week's goal: 11st 7lb

Ooo! Have just realised, that still amounts to a pound off since last Friday - so maybe its not as bad as I'd thought.

Hope everyone else is ok. Lambskin? Are you lurking, or have you decided to step back for a bit?

Madwoman - did you get a new battery for your scales and discover a mahoosive weight loss that they'd been hiding from you?

Lambskin · 24/10/2011 14:34

Hello, been absent for a bit but thought I'd pop back for a lurk and saw poor moose has been abandoned! Sorry moose! I couldn't ignore your sterling achievement Grin

I'm not weighing myself at the moment because I was getting too hung up on the numbers. I'm really happy with the way I look. I've got rock hard thighs, a flat stomach and pretty decent triceps, I am a size 12 and think that if I try to be less it will be unsustainable, I'll become disheartened and yo-yo all over the place. Not healthy.

I tried Dukan for a week, and it was actually ok and not too hard but didn't like the strictness of it. A good diet should be about balance. I lost 5 lbs but then we had friends over for dinner and I put it back on again - now that's not really losing weight is it?

Life's a bit bonkers at the moment with ds2 and mumsnetting has been next to impossible. I'm hoping to pop back every now and then though so keep my seat warm Grin

Keep at it girls!

moosemama · 26/10/2011 16:24

Helooooo Lambskin, good to hear from you! Hope I haven't missed you and you'll pop back to see this message.

You sound gorgeous! Grin Am very jealous of your triceps - mine seem determined to stay flabby, although my biceps aren't bad and am now pretty happy with my legs and abs, so not all bad.

I think you're very sensible not weighing, but sticking with a manageable size instead. Its a lesson I still need to learn, I do try, but I'm still seeing the fat me in the mirror at the moment which doesn't help.

I know I'm not going to hit my target this week and its preying on my mind, so I really do need to get past this obsession with the scales somehow.

madwomanintheattic · 26/10/2011 19:43

not abandoned! still clinging on! (lamb, you sound gorgeous and really happy with where you are!)

we're having trials with ds1 too, lamb, so sympathies. thinking of pulling him out of school.

going to break out that kicking and punching this afternoon, moose, what a great idea! i've been doing fresh air and mindfulness with the dogs, (as well as the tea and anxiety lol) but a good beasting sounds perfect. thanks for the idea!

as mentioned, batteries still dead and what with one thing and another i forgot to buy any, but do have to go to store later, so will try and remember. not going to weigh until friday now anyway.

just got back from my meeting and one of the folk i was with offered to take me cross country skiing too Grin. i've done it once and it was horrific Grin but that might also help in terms of using completely different muscles! i'm terrified. she's astonishingly fit and trains olympians in her spare time. we don't get on v well but have to work together on a voluntary thing, so i think it's her way of bonding... either that or she's trying to kill me off completely. Grin which is, however, quite possible...

moose, a pound off is a pound off. i've also knackered my shoulder a bit from dogs pulling but i think i need to shake it loose as the tension is making it worse. and it's getting colder so i need to keep my circulation going!

fingers crossed for this week.

moosemama · 26/10/2011 20:15

That's the spirit, get punching and kicking that stress away - it'll do you a power of good! Grin

Cross country skiing, how exciting! Are you going to be as fit as an olympian by the end of it do you think?

I have a sore elbow where lurcher boy yanked my arm on Blackpool beach on Monday. Daft mutt, he was literally bouncing like Tigger on the end of the lead he was so excited, but I don't let him off until we are in a very big clear space because he can run like the wind. Tis a beautiful thing to see, but not so good if you're standing in his return line and his brakes fail! Grin

I will confess now you're here, that I gave in and had a small portion of chips from our favourite fish and chip shop while we were there. We used to live in Lancashire and go to Lytham and Blackpool most weekends, in fact we were looking for a house there until ds1 came along and we decided to move back to the Midlands to be nearer to family support. We both miss Lancashire so much though and would almost definitely have moved back by now if it wasn't for ds1.

Disappointingly, the chip shop has been taken over and the chips were nowhere near as nice as they used to be. Didn't have much choice though, as there's seriously nowhere to buy healthy food in Blackpool at 7.00 pm. In my defence, I took a packed lunch with me, so only had one bad meal, but I've been retaining water ever since I ate the blooming chips. Hmm Serves me right I supposed, I should have packed a salad or summat.

Lambskin · 27/10/2011 13:33

Aw shucks, thanks guys Blush Grin

I have 5 minutes so am using it wisely on MN Smile

Ironic that you're thinking of pulling your ds out of school Madwoman, I've been 'in talks' to find a school to put mine back into. I've given Home Ed a good go but it's just not for ds2. He needs to be back in the system driving everyone else mad instead of just me otherwise we'll never get a dx. We walked into town this morning to go to the bank (he loves banks - don't ask - so got dressed at the break neck speed of half an hour instead of the usual half day). The being there was fine, it was quiet and we didn't need to queue, but the walking there and back was a trial. I was nearly in tears several times. I think I'm still coming to terms with it all. He even tried to push me into the road just as a lorry came thundering past, he's only 6 what if he did that at 16? He didn't know what he was doing and panicked because of the traffic noise, but oh dear Sad

I know that rant should be in SN but as I said I've only got a short time and wanted to check in here.

Anyway ......

I LOVE fish and chips moose, and don't trust people who don't, but what an arse when they're not the ones you've been fantasising about. I don't think a salad would have cut it though would it? Grin

Cross country skiing sounds like something people do at the start of a horror movie or something where you end up having to gnaw your own leg off or something. But don't let me put you off ....... Grin

Take care both xx

moosemama · 27/10/2011 14:43

Oh Lambskin, sorry the Home Edding isn't working out for your. I must admit, I'm not sure how I'll cope being with ds1 24/7 if we have to Home Ed instead of secondary school. I'm firmly in denial about the possibility at the moment.

Its fine to rant here, there's only you me and madwoman left, so we have our own SN weighloss club going on! Grin

Well, I'd gained just over another blooming pound when I weighed myself this morning. Sad I know its water, because it always happens when I ramp up my exercise and I have a raging thirst going on at the same time - but ugh - some days it all seems like such a huge effort for so little reward.

Still, I'm not quitting, I have my mind set on getting to at least 11 stone, preferably just under, by Christmas and getting a fab new dress to wear on Christmas Day. I never dress up for it normally, but this years gonna be different! Grin

madwomanintheattic · 27/10/2011 16:34

oh lamb, that's one of the things that worries me tbh, but we won't know until we try it. school has never really worked for him and i'm wondering if it's making him worse. have you found anywhere hopeful yet? it's such a balance, isn't it?

i felt much better after a good bit of kicking and punching yesterday, moose. i might even have another go today! and it was short enough to feel like a release, rather than a slog!

moosemama · 27/10/2011 16:53

Glad it helped madwoman. I did two circuits of kickboxing after my shred this morning and boy do my poor bottom and thighs hurt now. Blush

Jillian Michaels does this back-kicking thing that I absolutely love for getting rid of stress, you can just imagine kicking it away really hard - good for the sould it is! Grin

I'm struggling to come up with things I want to eat at the moment and coming in way too far under my calories. I just don't seem to have much of an appetite and nothing I can think of tempts me. Its usually soups/stews and risottos for me at this time of year, but they're all stacked with root veggies or white risotto rice, which makes the water rentention worse. Someone on MFP suggested chickpea curries, but not sure I can be faffed to do that much actual cooking just for me and there's no way the dcs will eat it.

Dd is poorly and curled up on the sofa under a blanket, she's just asked for black and white pasta for tea (its Doves Farm gluten free stuff and has dark green, orange and normal twists) but I really don't want pasta - again! Hmm

Might go and do some googling for inspiration.

moosemama · 28/10/2011 18:30

Gah! Well I knew I wasn't going to be on target, I feel all bloated up and horrible as I'm still retaining water really badly. It should sort itself out as I get more used to my new workout, so am hoping things will shift before next Friday's weigh-in.

Made a sweet potato and lentil curry in the end last night and have the leftovers to eat tonight.

So here goes:

Anyway, here goes:

Stats:

Starting weight 16/6: 14st 2lb
Weight 24/6: 13st 8lb
Weight 1/7: 13st 7lbs
Weight 2/7: 13st 5lbs
Weight 13/7: 13st 4lbs
Weight 14/7: 13st 1lb
Weight 21/7: 12st 13lbs
Weight 29/7: 12st 11lbs (and 6oz)
Weight 16/8: 12st 9lbs (weighed in Tues not Fri due to holidays)
Weight 19/8: 12st 8lbs
Weight 20/8: 12 st 7lbs
Weight 26/8: 12st 8lbs 4oz
Weight 2/9: 12st 6lbs
Weight 9/9: 12st 5lbs
Weight 15/9: 12st 2lbs - 2 stone off!
Weight 23/9: 12st 1lb
Weight: 30/9: 11st 13lb 6oz
Weight: 7/10: 11st 12lb 6oz
Weight: 8/10: 11st 11lb
Weight: 14/10: 11st 9lb 6oz
Weight: 21/10: 11st 8lb 6oz
Weight: 28/10: 11st 8lb 2oz Hmm

Next week's goal stays the same as this week's: 11st 7lb

Madwoman, hope you are still punching and kicking your way through the stress and have managed to come to a decision about ds and school.

Lambskin, hope you're managing to get things sorted out for ds and are feeling less stressed with it all.

madwomanintheattic · 28/10/2011 20:31

no decision yet - am going to discuss it with ds this weekend when we aren't all rushing around.

i lost a pound Grin which is a miracle in itself as last week was a bit of a disaster area, but that is over 2 weeks Grin Blush going to shift my lardy butt this week anyway - got that x country skiing to prep for!

your scales are still going in the right direction, moose. Envy

no punching and kicking today - have spent three hours ironing so far, which isn't such good exercise but has made me feel a bit more in control, so all good. Grin that said, i might do something tonight - it's definitely been helping me sleep as well, both nights! not sure if it's because i'm knackered or just less stressed! both probably.

sweet potato and lentil curry sound delicious. i think i'm going to have butternut squash risotto - it's that sort of day! but it does mean i have to go and buy some parmesan, as it just doesn't taste quite right without a few shavings over the top! Grin

moosemama · 28/10/2011 21:11

My scales are going, up-down-up-up-down-up-downish like a blooming yo-yo at the moment and always the same two pounds. Hmm

Three hours ironing! Shock You'll have arms like a bricklayer. Grin

I had butternut squash risotto on Wednesday night, great minds think alike. Smile

moosemama · 29/10/2011 12:03

Hopeful the water weight's starting to shift now. I was down again this morning (11 stone 7lbs 6oz to be exact), so thats a downward shift for two days in a row. [hopefull emoticon]

Dh has challenged me to do a level 1 shred followed by the whole 40 minutes of Banish Fat Boost Metabolism with him today! I think he just wants to see me suffer! Grin

madwomanintheattic · 30/10/2011 01:22
Grin i like your dh. Grin mine is just as likely to challenge me to a pie-eating contest. Grin

i am feeling much better, much less stressed. and i've FOUND MY WEDDING RING that i lost five months ago. Grin in an earring box in a shoe box in the closet. (i was sorting out unworn shoes for the charity shop in a fit of decluttering). clearly a few earring boxes were tucked into shoe boxes for the move, and not unpacked!

the brown dog has gastroenteritis though, which has put a bit of a downer on the weekend and involved much mopping and an expensive trip to the vet already. just what you want on a saturday morning!

is your mri follow-up next week? i've lost track.

i did five hours ironing in the end. still didn't get to the bottom of it Blush but i'm very close. tonight's the night!

i'm hoping for a big loss this week as i'm feeling so positive - going to make the most of it and get out and exercise like crazy. bootcamp myself. who knows, you might make a shredder out of me yet. Grin (i've also realised how close christmas is, and spending some time in my closet this morning made me realise i have a lot of clothes i'd quite like to wear, but can't! motivation.....) and the first ski hill opened today... Shock it can't be that time already!

moosemama · 30/10/2011 11:10

Oh how lovely to find your wedding ring, it must have really upset you to lose it.

Sorry to hear the dog is ill, urgh - all that mopping and cleaning up.

My MRI is on the 9th of November, so a little while yet.

Five hours of ironing! Shock I avoid ironing at all costs, everything is put away creased and ironed 'if' it needs it. Blush

I'd lost another 4oz this morning, so am down to 11st 7lbs 2oz, which feels a bit better.

Dh lived to regret yesterday's challenge - but only just. Grin We did a level 1 shred, then all but one of the circuits (there are 7 in all) of BFBM - thats 54 minutes of circuit training in all. We didn't do circuit 6, because it has a lot of moves in it that aggravate dh's bad knee. He was sooo stiff afterwards though and absolutely exhausted for the rest of the day. He has flatly refused a rematch today - I think because I got through it a lot more easily than he did - and pronounced me completely insane for doing the shred plus 3 circuits of BFBM on a daily basis! Grin

Sounds like you are firing on all cylinders and really up for it now. Good luck with your self-imposed bootcamp - here's hoping we both see a nice big loss next Friday.

moosemama · 31/10/2011 11:09

Wa hey! I am going to put this on here today, because there's every chance it will go back up again tomorrow, but when I weighed myself this morning - I was 11st 6lbs! Grin

I also measured my waist yesterday and discovered I am now 29.5". I can't remember the last time my waist was under 30", so I am pleased as punch! I was 34.5" when I started shredding in the last week in August. Grin

Didn't get to work out yesterday, what with getting everything set for the return to school, trying to get some order back into my disaster of a house after the half term holiday and then staying up till 1.00 am trying to finish ds1's SA request before his review meeting at 8.45 am this morning.

Meeting went well. Things are sounding pretty good for ds1 at school at the moment, we have a great team this year, who really care enough to think about ds's needs and have obviously done a bit of extra reading as well. Honestly, I could hug his class teacher, she is fantastic! Smile Such a huge difference from last year.

So, I am emailing my parental advice to the school and inclusion team when I've dotted the I's and crossed the T's - hopefully the end of this week. The SISS team and SENCO are going to let me have any suggestions and comments they may have and then it should be going in next week!

This morning wasn't a good start to the school week for ds1 though. Despite me talking him through what's going to happen again and again - and again and him insisting he was fine with it all, he suddenly realised that his routine was going to be all changed by going to this film thing at the church with his best friend this evening, worried he'd be scared of the film and sobbing at the thought of not seeing me until bedtime. I couldn't console him, so had to take him into school with me and tell him he could talk to his friend today and decide whether or not he wants to go. If not, he can come home with me when I go to fetch ds2 and we will arrange for his friend to come and have a film-night at our house with popcorn and snacks etc and he can choose the film himself.

Dh took him round to his queue, still sobbing and managed to catch his friend's mum to explain the situation. She's lovely and said he could just come round to play after school and they'd drop him of before they go to the film - but he'd gone in by then, so we couldn't tell him that option.

I don't envy his teachers today. Sad

Phew! Am completely exhausted now and I need to shred to make up for yesterday. Hmm

madwomanintheattic · 31/10/2011 13:29

wow moose, well done! you've had some amazing results, and all through sheer hard work! i might measure my waist today - that will be a good marker for me now i think... although i'm not looking forward to seeing what it is at the mo really.

poor ds. it's so hard when routines change. hopefully he's managed to sort out with his friend what he wants to do. really trciky, and so often it's just the anxiety about something that's the issue, the actual 'doing' sometimes go off without an issue. at least school are on side and are working hard to get sorted out for SA etc. it's good to feel you are moving in the right direction - it's the treading water that's so frustrating.

happy shredding.

moosemama · 31/10/2011 16:48

Thanks madwoman. It has been hard work, but I have a long way to go yet. Another stone and two pounds to reach my goal weight.

Ds1 decided to go and play at his friends house and then come home before the film. His friends mum, bless her, made sure she was there early to suggest it to him. I have duly delivered his spy outfit (white tshirt, black trousers and sunglasses) and gf packed dinner and he did take it with him - 'just in case', but I would be very surprised if he manages to make it to the film. I have popcorn, milkshake and a mini tub of vanilla ice-cream waiting for him as concellation. (sp?)

I have promised to host a film night for them here soon - am sure it will be either Pokemon or Star Wars the Clone Wars, but hey, as long as he's happy.

According to his diary, his teacher reckons he coped well with his anxiety today and she talked it through with him, which helped as well.

We have postponed pumkin carving until tomorrow, so that all 3 dcs can do it together. I'm impressed at you carving at midnight - but at the same time think you're onto something doing it without them. I hate doing it, all that seed removal and my lot make such a mess with stringy stuff and seeds all over the place - plus, neither of my boys should ever be let loose near sharp implements, so they draw ridiculously intricate designs and then expect me to carve them perfectly on their behalf. Hmm

Your's sound incredible with gourds being eaten and complete with blood, guts and vomit! Shock Lol at your ds's preference for a nice sanitised version of halloween though. Grin

moosemama · 04/11/2011 10:21

Morning, dreaded weigh-in day again.

Well I have been sitting comfortably at bang on 11st 6lb all week, then I get up today to weigh in and find I am 11st 7lbs. Hmm

I suppose at least I've still met my target, but still, it is slightly annoying. Its that dreaded last few days before my period though, so I suppose it could be worse and hopefully that errant pound will disappear again afterwards.

Stats:

Starting weight 16/6: 14st 2lb
Weight 24/6: 13st 8lb
Weight 1/7: 13st 7lbs
Weight 2/7: 13st 5lbs
Weight 13/7: 13st 4lbs
Weight 14/7: 13st 1lb
Weight 21/7: 12st 13lbs
Weight 29/7: 12st 11lbs (and 6oz)
Weight 16/8: 12st 9lbs (weighed in Tues not Fri due to holidays)
Weight 19/8: 12st 8lbs
Weight 20/8: 12 st 7lbs
Weight 26/8: 12st 8lbs 4oz
Weight 2/9: 12st 6lbs
Weight 9/9: 12st 5lbs
Weight 15/9: 12st 2lbs - 2 stone off!
Weight 23/9: 12st 1lb
Weight: 30/9: 11st 13lb 6oz
Weight: 7/10: 11st 12lb 6oz
Weight: 8/10: 11st 11lb
Weight: 14/10: 11st 9lb 6oz
Weight: 21/10: 11st 8lb 6oz
Weight: 28/10: 11st 8lb 2oz hmm
Weight: 4/11: 11st 7lb exactly

So, next week's goal should be 11st 6lb, but I'm thinking it may be possible to get to 11st 5lb, seeing as I've already been at that weight for five days until today. Think I'm going to stick with 11st 6lb though and just be really pleased if I manage to lose a bit more.

moosemama · 05/11/2011 12:25

I blooming knew it. Up three times to go the toilet in the night and am back down to 11st 6lb this morning.

So thought I'd just pop in and amend next Friday's target to 11st 5lb - although being my totm, its anyone's guess whether or not I'll hit it.

Hope everyone else is ok and just too busy to post. Smile

moosemama · 05/11/2011 12:27

Almost forgot. I only need to lose another half a pound to finally arrive in the healthy BMI category.

I started a couple of points into the obese category back in June, so this feels huge to me. Desperate to shift those few ounces now, so dh and I are going to do all of BFBM when he gets back from the hairdressers with the dcs.

Lambskin · 07/11/2011 13:19

Hello all!

It is huge moose, I'm so impressed with your staying power. I get bored of being on a diet by the time it gets to Friday and I just want wine and fried stuff, which is compounded on Saturday, and topped off nicely on Sunday, just in time to feel hideously guilty and back on a diet again on Monday! This means that I will never lose the last few pounds that keep me in the 10 stones rather than the 9 stones I should be and would really like to be. Obviously not enough though hey?!

I'm hoping to get a new rush of giving a shit some time soon, but if not after Christmas is usually good for a go.

Have a meeting at a school tomorrow that is, on paper, willing to take ds2 so very hopeful. It'll be a very gradual integration if it does go ahead, and I have broached the idea tentatively with him - along the lines of 'what were the best bits of school' and 'would you like to see more of other children?'.

Your Halloween sounds very impressive madwoman! I carved a pumpkin in a sort of slasher/stabbing style and the result was suitably wonky and mostly ignored by the rest of the family. Love all the goo though Grin

I have to say WELL DONE MOOSE!!!! Grin Grin Grin You've come such a long way and I bet you look FABULOUS Grin How do you stay focused?

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