Elva Labs

[ClaudiaWinkle]

Has anyone used them or heard anything about them? They sell “freeze dried” powder containing the same ingredients as mounjaro and wegovy, which you reconstitute and inject. It’s a lot cheaper than the pens because of this. However, it feels too good to be true!

Screenshot of prices.

Illegal and unregulated in UK. Don’t take the risk.

I can’t tell if this is meant to be an ad for this website…

Of course it’s “too good to be true”. It’s black market and illegal. Mounjaro and Wegovy are only manufactured by Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk respectively. What’s advertised here is unknown product usually manufactured in China with links to organised crime. It will have had no legal oversight from anyone, could contain anything and have been stored in any kind of conditions. It would be stupidly risky to purchase and use.

Prescription only medication in the UK must be properly prescribed, with a medical consult. Not just bought no questions asked.

I can assure you I’m a long time Mumsnet user and not advertising. Just someone looking for some advice!

It's peptides of course they're not regulated, you take your chance, mixing it with bacwater 😂 I've always been ok but obviously it's a Risk

Oh, goody, this website again.🙄 Selling knock-off Mj and WG and then also retatrutide, which hasn't even finished trials yet.

And with a page of hilariously obvious AI generated "clinicians" to make it all seem legit.

I’m not dead. Yet. 👀👀

Also those prices are LOL you can get independent tested vials a lot cheaper than that 😬

Yeah those prices are bit pricey but hey ho

It amazes me that people are so stupid to inject drugs from non clinical sources, with no proper assessment for prescription and no guarantee of exactly what they are injecting.

It is on a par with using "recreational" drugs bought on the street.

Just because the drug dealers put it in a box which looks legitimate means nothing at all.
All that takes is a bit of skill with a printing app.

Have some thought for your health and the hell you and your family would go though if this goes horribly wrong, as is all too possible if not probable.

Reported this thread and hopefully it will be removed.

@Corryvreckan sadly it seems that MN think this thread is A OK and haven’t removed it yet.

I know. It seems mad to me.

I actually think it is ok to remain, not that it’s anything to do with me, but I would far rather people read the replies than don’t. It might make them think twice.

It's been working for me, I was tired of having to pay huge amounts with other companies so I just gave it a try and it's been working. Not everyone can afford the high prices that are charged and it's just not fair. Legal or illegal their services are good.

I'm sure this bloke thought he was getting a good service. And believed all the bollocks from the peptide pushers. Until he went nuts and ruined his life, that is. Because - oh, yes, he'd bought an unknown substance from an unregulated source!

But, sure, go ahead and risk your physical and mental health because "not fair!". Just don't encourage others to do the same.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gd82vvvdno

Wow, you must need your head examined! Do you also dabble with coke too?

It’s a Chinese fake. Who even knows what it is??

He wasn’t taking peptides. Testosterone is not a peptide.

Get it tested. Simple enough to do.

So what if they do? Why so salty over what another adult decides to do with their own body?

Did you read the article @curiositykilledthecat0 ? He didn't know it was testosterone or intend to take testosterone. It was a completely different product that was laced with testosterone unbeknown to him and everyone else that may have bought and taken it. The company that sold it also sells peptides, the point is that these companies don't know and don't care what is in the products they sell.

You do realise next to no supplements are actually tested though? All these new ones that crop up probably have no COAs behind them. Yet people take supplements like smarties.

I do use peptides not going to say I don’t. I try to buy in a group and we each send a sample off to an independent lab to test for mass and purity, you can also have it tested for heavy metals and endo but mass and purity seem to be the most popular.

unfortunately if doing this you need to carefully research the supplier, middle men like the one you linked to are the problem not the peptides themselves.

SARMS are a very bad idea, they also lied about testing which is why you should always send them to be tested yourselves.

I am not saying there’s not an element of risk of course there is but that should be up to the individual to determine whether they feel adverse to it or not.

simply making something illegal doesn’t actually stop anything.

Of course it being illegal doesn't prevent people accessing them, that would be very simplistic and childlike thinking. No one has said otherwise. It allows for criminal prosecution if harm is done, or other sanctions for other crimes or civil issues. It also serves to indicate to the public that this is not a regulated or controlled source of supplements/medication, which allows people to judge if it's a sensible course of action.

Any supplement being legally sold in the UK will be required to comply with the relevant rules around its ingredients. eg https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/food-supplements/food-supplements

If it's a medical supplement, that makes a specific medical claim, there are rules around those too, as they are considered to be medicines or medical devices.

These peptides, and other unregulated supplements, are not being legally sold. Of course there's no regulation or testing, because they shouldn't be available to people to buy. People don't do "research" into suppliers for various reasons - being unaware of the rules around the selling of these products being one reason. The websites can often look very normal, the product images can look very legitimate, people are browsing the internet looking for a solution to their particular perceived problem or are suggested them by other people using them. So it has a superficial veneer of acceptability which incurious people won't look beyond.

I'm reasonably certain my daily magnesium pill isn't giving me a dose of male hormones at the same time. 😉

I actually think the legal supplement industry should be better regulated. Both in terms of bulking ingredients and wild claims of effectiveness. And yet, at the same time, I can also believe that these online drug pushers are dangerous and irresponsible and anyone who buys from them is playing with fire. One industry being a bit cavalier in their approach doesn't make another one being fucking awful ok. Biggest fallacy out there.

And yes, it's a personal decision but like a lot of these things where that truism is trotted out, other people can end up in the firing line as a result. In the case of the bloke in the article I linked to, his family.