I’m wondering if these injections would help me.

[VenetoResident]

I eat one meal a day normally. Low carb high fat. Usually meat and salad or meat and green veg.

I do a cardio based exercise class 3 days per week.

I drink too much milky coffee. I am trying to intersperse these with sugar free squash.

I was just under 14 stone at the start of December. Today I’m 12 stone 3. I’m 5 foot 4.

My issue is occasional meals out / weekends away cause massive gains and then I lose a week getting back to where I was.

I find it hard to believe you are not losing on a chicken salad everyday-even with eating out. I’d do strength training 3x a week, even if that means dropping one cardio session.

No. Weight loss injections won’t help you eat less than one meal a day.

You are losing weight so dont see that you need them really. Its not unusual to gain after a weekend away
One meal a day isnt sustainable long term though

I am definitely getting a lot of carbs from the white coffee.

That was my thought @JamesFrond - I don’t think I have food noise.

@MrsMiagi- in what sense is it not sustainable?

@Thelondonone- I’ve lost almost 2 stone since 1st December - with big gains at Christmas and on two all inclusive holidays in between. I am losing. It’s just slow and hard.

It’s an aid to help you eat less, without suffering the hunger pangs and food noise as much as you would without it. Some people suffer side effects so you’d have to try and weight up the benefits versus the negatives. You won’t know how it would affect you without trying it. It’s hard on your wallet. Do you think that might be useful to you?

@VenetoResident this idea about "food noise" seems to really distract people from how these medications work. They change how your metabolism responds to eating, which then affects your levels of hunger, your appetite and they make you feel fuller quicker. For some people, those metabolic changes mean that they stop thinking continuously about food and are able to choose what to eat and when, in a way they couldn't previously. Regardless of that, the medication will have its effect on your system, if it works well for you.

So, if you qualify for a prescription, then the medication will likely work for you the same way it does for anyone else. As the PP have said, you need to consider the risks and the financial cost against the benefits to your health. Then also consider whether you would stay on them long term, or whether you think you could maintain a lower weight without the medication. Which is not easy.

That’s really unhealthy op, one meal a day like chicken salad then you must be bingeing when you go out, if it takes a week to get back. You are likely developing or have an eating disorder, so I don’t think the jabs are for you.

you need to eat a healthy clean balanced diet on the injections, and not starve yourself, and as you’re already starving and then bingeing. I think you will mentally struggle,to stay in control, and not make yourself very unwell.

forget the jabs, focus on fixing your eating habits and get mentally healthy. Then you can reconsider.

You need to track what you’re eating. How many calories, how much protein are you having?

I could easily eat more calories in one meal than compared to 2/3 meals a day.

It really doesn't sound like you are eating enough on a normal day. Surely some meat and salad is maybe 300- 400 calories at most? WLI are not going to do anything for you.

Dining out wt. gain is mainly from the amount of salt used.
Eating meager portions though will have long term bone and muscle loss.

@SilenceInside- I would have to carefully look into the potential costs, but I don’t think it’s that big an issue.

6 days out of 7 I eat one or maybe two meals a day. All low carb on plan. They’re not massive meals and although I do always finish them, I portion them myself so I’m not eating to excess. I do have a lot of salad - maybe 1/2 to 3/4, sometimes one bag per day.

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But I think it would be the fatty meat or mayo I add that’s the issue, not the salad.

I suspect it’s the milk in the coffee though.

I’m trying to drink more water and I add this squash to it. https://www.en.teisseire.com/our-products/product-card/elderflower-sugar-free#:~:text=Typical%20nutritional%20values:,Energy:%209%20kJ%20/%202%20kcal

@Velvetandleather- I don’t think I’m really bingeing when I’m out.

For example last weekend I was away.

I ate meat and salad night one.

Sat I had a chicken strips and chips lunch, then wedding buffet food and cake (really not lots), had a few drinks and three lattes.

Sunday I had a low carb breakfast but then had two bought sandwiches and a croissant on the way home.

I was 12 3 last Fri. Today I’m 12 3.2.

@VerityUnreasonble

Chat gpt thinks my meat and salad would be about:

• Calories: ~705 kcal
• Protein: ~50 g
• Fat: ~54 g
• Carbs: ~5 g

I'm not actually sure what you're asking about tbh. You've lost weight since December, and you are not eating very many calories on a typical day, but have some weekends where you eat a lot more. You generally lose weight each week, except after meals out/weekends away where you gain afterwards, which is not surprising. But then you lose weight again and are generally making downwards progress.

What is it that you want to change or improve, that you think WLI (or another approach) might help with?

That sounds high to me but I guess it depends on the meat and what you put in the salad! I was basing it on maybe 200/ 250 for a chicken breast + 100 for a decent leafy salad.

If it was a 10oz rib eye and a ceasar salad then I'd be 100s out!

The more you post the more disordered your eating appears.
Like mentioned above, you’re loosing weight overall.
Weight loss is a slow process.

use an app like nutracheck. Weigh and log everything you consume. It will give you an accurate idea of how much you eat.

eg salad dressing - this can massively affect the calories in a salad. Bread eaten alongside it perhaps. A chunk of cheese here and there. I bought the kids some small cheese and onion rolls from M&S (like veggie sausage rolls) and had a couple while cooking on afternoon - went to put them into nutracheck and was gutted that they were 200+ kcal. I would much rather have had eg a scoop of ice cream instead!

so thinking about your example of two sandwiches and a croissant - that could be 1200kcal without realising. I’d suggest getting more acquainted with the numbers and this may then make things easier for you re choices. You can have three meals a day and be in a deficit - you just need to be careful and understand what you’re consuming a bit better

You are doing well and losing weight without the injections. What more do you wish to achieve?

I don’t think they’d help you, I don’t think you need to be eating any less than you are and that’s all they’d really achieve.

Someone else’s advice was good. Download MyFitnessPal (or Nutracheck) and log everything that crosses your lips for a week. You’ll be surprised where calories sneak in.

but 0.2oz is not a gain in fat, it’s negligible. It’s just normal daily fluctuation. I’d suggest putting the scales away for a couple of weeks and focusing on logging your food.

Just to add to what others are saying, Eli don’t really support OMAD - you need to eat smaller regular meals with a good balance of protein and fibre.

i learned very quickly that you can’t save your calories up all day for a meal out - you feel full quite quickly and finishing the mesl
becomes a chore if you can do it.

About 2-3 weeks in, I went out for a meal with friends (tasting menu at a Michelin starred restaurant) and had only had coffees all day, hoping I could offset calories as per a more traditional
cslorie counting approach. Appetite suppression and feeling full meant that by the time we got to the “main” I was full, so that and the remaining 4 courses were like torture….

Far better to have a sensible breakfast and moderate lunch followed by your evening meal, all in proportion.

if you decide to go for Wli, you will need to rethink your approach to meals and food.

You need to eat more food, not less.