Is it confirmed that jabs are for life?

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Hi

I posted here a year or so ago thinking of trying this but I had a terrible experience with Saxenda so decided against it

Still big have lost about 5lb

over the last year, it looks like you have to take it forever

Reconsidering you guys will understand,. I feel like being fat is a problem in every walk of life.

But that's an expense that has to be paid forever, isn't it?

Op you can google it, how many people do you know have lost signficant weight in real life. No one goes bald , just with signficant weight loss the body basically goes into a sort of shock and the hair follicles close down and you shed more, when weight stabilises it returns within 3-6 months, not everyone gets it, far from it, but you can easily google this stuff.

and as said, instead of focusing on how you’d stay slim if you ever got there , I’d focus on how you will get there,

Yes, hair loss can be a result of any weight loss regardless of how it’s achieved. It’s not a side effect of WLI specifically.

About 12 years ago I did the Cambridge diet which was a liquid only diet of 400 calories per day for 6 months and lost 5 stone. Among other side effects, my hair became much thinner but with time it all came back.

Obviously, such a restrictive diet was completely unsustainable and I regained all the weight so have been on Mounjaro since August 2024 and although weight loss has been far slower, I have again had some hair loss but I’m not worried as I know it’s temporary.

I don’t have bald spots, it’s just an overall thinning and increased hair fall. When tying up in a ponytail it just means the scrunchie goes round an extra time. It’s probably not particularly noticeable to others but even if it was, the overall health benefits of losing weight far outweighs any concerns I have.

Yet many can do it. If you consider overeating as a drug habit then surely it's possible to resist with willpower?

yeah cos thats exactly the same as drug and alcohol addiction 🧐

when you are a drug addict you do not at any stage have a a bit of heroine and then use willpower to not have anymore….you do not touch drugs at all

with any luck you don’t live with a household of people on heroine…you don’t prepare heroine for your children….you aren’t surrounded by it (again some very unfortunate people might be)

smidge difficult to do with food (could give up pizza or chocolate but not possible with food in general)

Funny all these people crawling out the woodwork, consumed by jealousy or resentment that people can take these drugs and become slim and havering on about willpower and deciding all fat people don’t understand nutrition.

There’s a big separate thread full of people who have come off or are in the process of doing so, and discussing how they are achieving it - which isn’t simply just stopping.
It’s not for everyone but it’s not true to say “So not a lot of people have come off”.

Op, if you’re not ready to lose the weight and do it. Then just accept that and revisit it when you’re ready.

What are you eating for your evening meal?

You may be better eating a larger meal at lunchtime and a smaller meal at dinner.

I know several people who have managed to stop it after they've just changed their eating habits and aren't eating crap any more.

Agreed. It is actually fine to take some time over this. I faffed for about 4 months after I'd made the decision, before going ahead. Can feel like a big step. I look back now and wish I'd started earlier, but the reality is I needed those few months.

If you aren't ready you aren't ready.

I went from 105kg to 82kg on MJ, really happy with that. I’m now terrified to come off it as I never want to go back and don’t trust myself as I have a very sweet tooth. There was a link to GLPs and thyroid and/or pancreatic cancer at one point, has that gone away?
Also cost wise I save quite a bit on food as I only have a bit of toast in the am, no lunch and then a smallish dinner. I used to spend £10 a day on lunch at Pret + snacks when I was at the office.
Eventually these will become as cheap as aspirin and 80% of the world will be on them

Eventually these will become as cheap as aspirin and 80% of the world will be on them

I think so! Well maybe not quite that cheap, but these drugs are the future. Thank fuck we found them.

It’s a shame we couldn’t just not sell all the processed, sugary foods that have been causing such havoc to our bodies, rather than having to invent and spend more money on a drug to curb our addictions! But agreed - hopefully this will be the thing that really saves the NHS - we should all be lobbying our MPs about this!

Funny we don’t feel like this about HRT. Plenty of people very happy to stay on that for life.

I guess the thing with WLDs is that you can change your habits while on them and if you stick to that, you’ll be able to come off and maintain 🤷🏻‍♀️

That thread is what made me realise that most people need to take it for life

That's very very interesting. My son struggles very badly with cross addiction and adhd (adult). If he's on top of alcohol then weed is off the charts, if he's on top of food then something else is rearing it's head. His adhd is very bad and he finds his various addictions are like whack a mole and so exhausting.

Perhaps you could ‘not give in to desire’ when it comes to making ignorant and judgmental posts on the internet?

You understand fully it is no different in terms of regain for any other method of weight loss, be it slimming world, weight watchers, low carb, intermittant fasting, right? You get it is absolutely no different. If you do not eat to maintenance cals you gain weight. And most people who stop dieting regain the weight,

so what is your thought process, everyone should just stay fat?

But why?

Why do you think? Because she’s a grown up and understands her body and mind, and understands without the aid of medication, she will struggle to eat and drink to maintenance cals all day every day for the rest of her life, her blood sugar will not be controlled and her insulin sub optimal and life. Stress. Boredom, emotions, social life.

im unsure if you’re playing faux innocent to be goady or you simply cannot for the life of you understand why people are fat and get fat. No one was born fat, we get this way through a multiple of reasons.

Perhaps you could advice a lifelong injection to help with that one as well 🙄

Sarcasm noted, however I do wish there was a treatment for it so you could get better xx

Because my consultant endocrinologist has told me I have a hormonal imbalance which the medication is rectifying.

Without it I am unable to limit my calorie intake to the maximum 1350 calories a day I can consume without gaining weight.

It’s the same as any other weight loss tool for example if you do one of the VLC diets. If you go back to old habits the weight goes back on. If you are able to stick to new habits and eating less then you can maintain.

I think most people know deep down where they lie. For me i can maintain in the short term but get derailed eg when things go wrong (bereavements) or other all encompassing events (moving house). I can also temporarily go wrong at holidays. So I don’t think I’ll always be taking but I need the option of a reset every so often.

Also, addiction to drugs/alcohol is different as you can simply remove those. I’m not saying it’s easy but is an all or nothing solution. Alcoholics can never touch another drop.

You can’t do that with food. You can’t learn not to eat.

@Dogaredabomb is your son on any kind of adhd medication already? I have a family full of adhders and addiction in some form is common, it's the dopamine seeking, mounjaro really helps, I started taking it in complete ignorance of these other effects, I wasn't even really obese just fed up of being a bit fat. From the first moment of taking itm y brain calmed down and I haven't touched a drop of alcohol in seven months. The thoughts are back though now I'm off and I don't know whether I'll relapse off it. It's worth exploring it if your son is overweight, you may find that the addiction is quelled whilst on it, honestly it was a game changer for me, and made me rather depressed at the thought of being off it but at the moment I can't afford it and nobody would countenance prescribing it to me for adhd/addiction and I couldn't even get it for my weight anymore as I'm underweight now, obsessively controlling my weight, so I've swapped one addiction for another , when on mj I don't obsess about anything the thoughts just go away and I go about my day

Filigreecurtain thank you, no he's not on any adhd medication.

There aren't any adhd clinics in his area I don't think and he's so sick of the adhd that he won't talk to me about it, which I completely understand.

He battles the exact same 3 stone always (he's small, 5'5") and it depends which addiction is on top at that moment. I can see that it's just such an exhausting curse.