Has anyone started WL injections with a ‘normal’ BMI?

[Kettlewithyourmetal]

Just that really

my BMI has always been around 22-24 but it’s been a lifelong battle of eating vigilance and massive efforts of daily exercise.

Since my 50s it’s just such a huge effort to fight to slow drift into weight gain and I’m not winning.

Im exhausted by it and honestly would love to shut out the food noise and just be able to eat small portions with satiety and not constant mental restriction.

I don’t think this would meet the current prescribing guidelines but I feel like I would hugely benefit mentally. I would love to see if a few months of shutting out the relentless appetite and 24:7 battle against the drive to eat would reset me a bit.

I could easily lose a stone and not look underweight or suffer from it so if that happened too it wouldn’t matter iyswim.

Has anyone started WLI for this reason and how did you access it/ how did you get on?

You'd only manage this if your dr was dodgy or you bought them from a beautician. Or if you had out of control diabetes that wasn't resolving with diet and metformin.

Maybe one day it will be used like this but currently the research doesn't support it as a safe option.

No, and the main reason I wouldn’t is because whoever you get it from would be irresponsible in prescribing/supplying it against medical guidelines. And I don’t want to take medication I get from an irresponsible supplier because who knows what other rules they might be breaking.

You could not legally be prescribed it with that BMI, no.

Please don't obtain NY dodgy vials via a hairdresser, beautician or gym bro - you've no idea what chemicals it will actually contain.

Yes I can see that is a good argument against

Bit oh I do wish it were considered a reason to use it from a mental health point of view

The potential side effects don’t outweigh the benefit, that’s why the cut off is BMI 30. Although I appreciate the difficulty and the noise issues.

Crumbs it is a prescription medication.

other uses are being investigated and other drugs will be coming into the market in a few years. There may even be a medication designed specifically for those of a healthy BMI (which you are) to use in the future. WLI is an evolving sector.

Fasting shut out a lot of food noise for me. It was such a relief. You could start with Gin Stephens who is very accessible.

Fasting shut out a lot of food noise for me. It was such a relief. You could start with Gin Stephens who is very accessible.

No - it’s deemed unsafe.

Honestly if the constant dieting is affecting your mental health, then stop.

You might put on a bit of weight and that’s not the end of the world. You might put on a lot of weigh and want to consider WLI. I’m not saying eat yourself to a BMI of 30 to get the jabs, but obsessing about what you’re eating to the detriment of your mental health is also not healthy.

I don’t think this would help my mental health. I don’t feel at all better when I’m larger in fact the noise is added to by the distress of being bigger and less physically fit.

and don’t get me wrong I function fine and I eat out when appropriate and in company but my body is not ‘naturally’ at a healthy BMI if my appetite is left unchecked if that makes sense.

I have to be very mindful and I hear this element is managed well with WLI and would love to be able to access that support.

I do also see that when stocks are low they should be prioritised for others though as well as the risk:balance of using them being altered when at a ‘normal’ BMI

You’d be better to look on reddit for info around this. If you’re going to do it regardless there is at least info around it there.

I think there is a mental health issue then. As in I didn’t feel bad mentally from being overweight, I was unhealthy and had health risks. I am not losing weight for looks, but for health.

It potentially sounds like an eating disorder, at least in the making.

You sound like you're straying into eating disorder territory.

You would benefit from help for your mental health, not your perceived weight "issue"

I really wouldn’t and I don’t think it’s legal to prescribe at healthy bmi. I went on this as a last resort as my weight wouldn’t stop going up and I became obese and I have a health condition that is made worse if I’m heavier. If you’re at a healthy weight you’re clearly doing something ok with your eating habits, I do understand the food noise but wonder if something deeper needs addressing through counselling? It’s not worth the risk. Good luck

It’s not safe and not legal.

No reputatble pharmacy is going to prescribe it for you. And to be honest, it probably won't work for you anyway.

If you've managed to keep your weight under control all these years (even with massive effort) you probably don't have an issue with GLP 1 production. It's not just about food noise it's an actual hormonal deficiency which affects the way the body processes foood and stores fat. It's really unlikely that anyone who has controlled their weight so long would suffer with this.

If you feel the struggle is affecting your mental health then you should seek help from your GP or a counsellor before it spirals into an eating disorder. There are other ways to help what you're describing.

Is that a type of fasting?

I’m getting a lot of adverts now for Slimpod which appears to be some form of hypnosis/NLP audios. I’ve no idea if it works but you could look at something like that as an alternative? Don’t buy Mounjaro from anywhere other than a pharmacy using legitimate data.

Also, it is worth noting that some people don’t loose the food noise and it works for them because they constantly feel unable to eat because of the side effects. It’s not a magic pill for everyone.

Good luck, it’s hard 🤞

My BMI was 27 when I started Ozempic, I got it prescribed by a private gynecologist. I have PCOS and had tried metformin for a few months with no success (with the same doctor). My weight gain had also been quite drastic and sudden - I’d been 58-62kg for most of my 20s, and suddenly went up to 82kg in around a year when I turned 30.

My doctor said he wasn’t concerned about me meeting a specific BMI threshold - he actually said I should’ve alerted him sooner, before I was officially in the overweight category. It was the PCOS diagnosis that swung it. This involved an ultrasound and blood tests. He did have to prescribe metformin first though.

Your BMI is obviously lower than mine was at the time, but I get the feeling my doc would’ve prescribed at a lower weight too given my PCOS diagnosis and seeing as I was really, really struggling to manage my food intake. It wasn’t even food noise, it was a complete block. If you feel strongly that there’s something affecting your eating, it might be worth going for tests, even if just to rule it out?

@Farandaway2 people aren’t being ‘gatekeepy’, they’re keeping it quiet because they are obtaining prescription drugs illegally!

OP I do hear you and I hope that the day comes when these meds will be legally available to any who need them but at the moment, they are not and you cannot be legally prescribed them unless you meet the criteria.

I do know someone who is on it at a normal bmi who obtained it through lying about her weight and height and put on layers of clothing for the photos. She lost half a stone but has gained again while still on it 4 months later as she hasn't changed her diet of mainly carbs and socialising of several restaurant meals a week and drinking wine regularly, sometimes a bottle every few nights.

I started on WLI in October 24 at bmi 32.4 I'm now down to bmi 24.0 through high protein, low carb, I haven't exercised due to long commute of 82 miles a day and long working days in the nhs 5 days a week, but I will start tapering down due to the upcoming increase in prices and will have to exercise.
But Ive just purchased berberine, which is a natural supplement taken by many to suppress appetite and lower blood sugars, could be worth a try. Read some reviews. It's available as capsules or liquid. I was prediabetic before starting WLI so coming off it is a concern anyway, let alone with my insulin resistance and genetics so I'll try anything that may help!

You’re encouraging someone, who sounds like they have a borderline eating disorder, to illegally obtain prescription meds from a beautician? What planet are you on???
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-medicines-regulator-warns-against-buying-weight-loss-medicines-without-a-prescription-this-new-year

Have you tried Hypnosis? That would be a much safer alternative and would work on your mental health issues.