Piling the weight back on when stopping MJ

[Richtea67]

Hi all....I'm so disappointed. I lost 3 and a half stone, have been off injections for a month and regained nearly 7lbs 😩. I was a slow loser (1-2lb per week) and focused on changing habits and reducing portion size rather than diets/calorie counting (this has led to binging previously). I have kept up with a lot of the habits (smoothie for breakfast, cutting out alcohol and healthy high protein snacks). But portion sizes have definitely gone up as I'm hungrier! And I've been more tempted by the biscuits at work and the kids treats! Any advice?? I'm considering re starting if I put too much weight on, but financially this would be a struggle, which is part of the reason I came off them. My starting weight was 14.5 stones, weight when stopping injections 11 stones and at present nearly half a stone back on!! Help!

I seriously doubt that. Look at one of the monthly threads they are fully of people who have been yo yo dieting for years.

I'm 44. I was obese at 7 years old (weighed 104lb). I became a severely obese teenager, then adult. I've lost significant amounts of weight at 4 separate points in my life. The last time in 2019/20 I lost 7 stone (still was obese just less so). I have done WW, sliming world, worked with a dietician, gym membership. I just can't keep it off. The last time I got close to being just overweight I started physically harming myself when I didn't lose on my diet that week. The food noise was painful (remember my body has been obese for almost all of my life). For my own mental health I stopped calorie counting and of course gained it all back. I figured better morbidly obese but with better MH.

WLI are my last resort. They may be my shot at being a healthier weight. I have no qualms about staying on them forever.

No but we also don't use that one unusual side effect to warn everyone to "be careful"...whatever the hell that means

I’m sorry to hear this and hope the therapy/day care helps.

I think this will become more common and is very easy to slip into this mindset after years of being obese - I’m sure it can become very addictive.

Theres a certain celebrity who now looks so gaunt and unwell after wlis, but maintains that the medication, even though she is now off it, has stopped her being able to gain weight. I don’t buy this for a minute but think again after a lifetime of battling a weight problem has lost control and taken it too far and I’m sure it’s so easy to do.

Not if their starting weight is 28 no. As maintenance yes from an obese starting wait yes.

@Burnserns i wish you all the luck in the world. I really hope that the injections work for you. You’ve had such a struggle x

I agree - relatively slim people who haven’t been obese shouldn’t use it as first port of call - you mention 30 to 35 with caution - is that because you feel the main benefit is to people who were over 35 to start with ?

Do you think people with mental health issues should just "fix the underlying issue" your post is ignorant and patronising. Why do people like you even come on threads like this

It's not only about dealing with the emotional and mental issues though - losing the weight for physical health is still a valid reason to use the medication.

Add 30 g of protein powder or Skyr to your morning smoothie. It needs more protein

Yes I’m a size 16 and fall into the obese range. Hence I would love to be “merely” overweight 😂

I'm so sorry to read MJ has triggered an ED. I hope the treatment helps. x

So you do not think someone with high cholesterol with a BMI of 28 should not be prescribed any WLI.

Yes but Mumsnet appeals to a certain demographic.

My early 30s daughter rolls her eyes when I mention Mumsnet. She has heard of WLI and gets her information about it mainly from social media. She even said she would love to try it which is nuts to me as she’s size 12 - then again much slimmer celebrities than her have used WLI. She’s not an airhead by the way, but a graduate with a serious job.

Sorry to hear about your weight related struggles.

I think you’re talking about Sharon O. I think she took losing weight way too far and looks gaunt now. Kelly O also doesn’t look as good as she used to as has lost too much weight. I’m sure it can become addictive.

I was about to say the same. Anything but SW.
Sadly I'm advised not to have any of these Mountjaros etc.. but I do need to lose about 2 stone, which despite cutting out all the recommended and doing more exercise, has got so much harder due to age/menopause and injuries etc.
My GP referred me to SW programme for 12 weeks.
The SW literature a really patronising read. Like a catechism

As @justmyview says. They want you to think of certain foods as a sin.. a naughty indulgence you can have if you've been a good girl and deserve it. I believe it's an unhelpful way of thinking about food, for me anyway.
Nearly all the syns are things my GP told me I must steer clear of in any case.
Loads of mail sent with one time discounts for some of the sugary carby crap they try to flog you. ,

I wrote to them for their advice on which parts of their diet I should follow because some parts I wasn't allowed to have and they referred me straight back to my GP.

In previous decades.. I found WW was better but I can't testify to what its like today and I'd be reluctant to spend the money on it anyway

Very interesting following on this thread. I'm a new user but considering how to stop since before embarking on the wli. Coming from a scientific background, taking into account that food noise and hunger feeling will certainly and inevitably rebound upon cessation of the injections, I am employing a strategy of:

Calculation of maintenance calories at goal weight.
Using a nutrition app to design a weekly menu consisting of majority whole foods, for gut biome health, and a gram of protein per kg body weight.
By design, allowing for some higher calorie days to be offset with lower calorie days (for occasions, the odd take out, monthly cycle fluctuations in cravings etc)
Taking my weight approximately half a stone below my goal weight and then tapering off of the injections.
The "menu" has been implemented on day 1 of starting wli, along with resistance training 3x a week to mitigate muscle mass loss.
My aim is to build the habits necessary for long term weight maintenance whilst holding the crutch of wli.
Upon tapering off, fighting against the inevitable hunger that returns with the habits already in place.
And having a "buffer" of around half a stone to allow for some weight regain (water weight, etc) up to my goal weight, relying on will power to maintain the good habits I've built without the food noise interfering, when it returns.
I have no idea how this will pan out, but I feel like it puts me in with the best shot at success I can have without staying on the injections forever.

Too many negatives in there I'm afraid? No I don't think they should be prescribed for high cholesterol in someone with a slightly raised BMI. Why do you think it will help the cholesterol? There are excellent cholesterol lowering drugs if indicated

I don't know how old you are but for me personally in mid 50s, I have done all those things numerous times before. Losing weight and gaining it back with an extra stone or 2. Until in my mid 50s I had a BMI of 46.
I could never train my brain to maintain any learned habits. Despite being intelligent educated and motivated. So personally I can't see me ever stopping them.

Just that people who are on long-term prescription medications pay the prescription charge (or not, depending on circumstances) rather than buying them expensively online.

Yes - too paranoid to name in case they come for me 😆😆 I’m sure Sharon and her daughter regularly read Mumsnet! Not!

One thing I've learned from taking the medication is that my eating was hardly emotional at all, it was a physical response to hunger. And that normally my digestive system was probably a bit fast, which was probably contributing as I wasn't taking in enough nutrients from the food.

Haha I’m pretty sure they can’t identify me from Mumnet 😂

I'm still confused. The "online" are through prescribers in an online pharmacy where you have to have a consult and are then prescribed it privately. It's not amazon 🙄

Maybe I am being selectively bias. I do frequent several forums, but the demographics do skew middle age. Can't say I spend time with many young adults outside of work, and my kid is too young to have any view on this. I pray to Goddess he never has to think about it, though.

Also thank you for your kind words.

Can anyone give me an idea how much a maintenance dose costs? And indeed, how much the medications are.

I’m gradually putting back on the 6stone I lost a few years ago.
I’ve successfully lost weight with weight watchers, then lchf , then slimming world.

I’m currently struggling to stay below 100kg.

Basically I can’t manage my food and pay attention to anything else in life. I either obsessively diet and think of nothing else, or I get on with general life- work and stuff- and put weight on.

I’m wondering how much I’d need to invest.