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Elcella Pill the UK answer to Mounjaro or other WLIs?

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dogsbreakfast · 09/04/2025 12:08

Has anyone tried Elcella or intending to try? Just released for sale in the UK so imagine no real users outside their trial just yet.
Now at goal weight and this seems like a great alternative to WLIs for maintenance (though not inexpensive at £595 for 12 week plan for weight loss - hoping maintenance dose would be less).

https://www.diabetes.co.uk/news/2025/jan/natural-weight-loss-drug-as-effective-as-ozempic-and-without-side-effects-academics-claim.html

Natural weight loss drug as effective as Ozempic and without side effects, academics claim

A newly developed weight loss pill can offer the same benefits as…

https://www.diabetes.co.uk/news/2025/jan/natural-weight-loss-drug-as-effective-as-ozempic-and-without-side-effects-academics-claim.html

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JunoRoma · 09/04/2025 12:43

It's potentially interesting, but I haven't been able to find where they've published their data. I looked at the Queen Mary's website, but it isn't available there. Perhaps they haven't published yet?

I'm not sure how feasible it will be to make direct comparisons with tirzepatide. This is a nutritional supplement so the requirements to prove efficacy and safety are less stringent.

Lundier · 09/04/2025 13:39

Hmm. It sounds unlikely. Pill made of the last three wellness fads combined unexpectedly turns out to be just like Ozempic.

Given it's just coconut oil and flaxseed, why is it so expensive? Why is it so hard to find the data?

(These queries not addressed to you, OP!)

IrisPallida · 09/04/2025 14:02

I cannot find any details of the alleged three clinical trials that this product claims to have run. If they have not been published then they have not been subjected to an sort of peer review.

I call bollocks.

LaPalmaLlama · 09/04/2025 14:11

Lundier · 09/04/2025 13:39

Hmm. It sounds unlikely. Pill made of the last three wellness fads combined unexpectedly turns out to be just like Ozempic.

Given it's just coconut oil and flaxseed, why is it so expensive? Why is it so hard to find the data?

(These queries not addressed to you, OP!)

yeah- just eat a teaspoon of each every day and save yourself about 500 quid a quarter.

dogsbreakfast · 09/04/2025 14:32

JunoRoma · 09/04/2025 12:43

It's potentially interesting, but I haven't been able to find where they've published their data. I looked at the Queen Mary's website, but it isn't available there. Perhaps they haven't published yet?

I'm not sure how feasible it will be to make direct comparisons with tirzepatide. This is a nutritional supplement so the requirements to prove efficacy and safety are less stringent.

I can't find the research data but the patent (European Patent Office 'epo') might be informative:
https://register.epo.org/application?documentId=L4SWI9KO12E29Y0&number=EP17714000&lng=en&npl=false

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https://register.epo.org/application?documentId=L4SWI9KO12E29Y0&lng=en&npl=false&number=EP17714000

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Gingerkittykat · 09/04/2025 14:56

It's so expensive for a supplement, I'm sure you could buy the three oils separately and combine them if you wanted to try it.

dogsbreakfast · 09/04/2025 15:06

Lundier · 09/04/2025 13:39

Hmm. It sounds unlikely. Pill made of the last three wellness fads combined unexpectedly turns out to be just like Ozempic.

Given it's just coconut oil and flaxseed, why is it so expensive? Why is it so hard to find the data?

(These queries not addressed to you, OP!)

Sorry, earlier link shows only 1 page. This is the whole patent and pages 10 and 11 outline the trials.
worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search/family/058428307/publication/EP3429625A1?q=EP3429625

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dogsbreakfast · 09/04/2025 15:13

The difficulty with eating the three ingredients separately seems to be the acidity in our stomach invalidates the relevant magic bits before they reach the hind gut / large intestine where the satiety signal is sent to the brain. These pills, if I have read correctly (not a guarantee!), have a coating which can carry the magic bits to the right place before they are destroyed by stomach acid. Could be total blx but I so want it to be true (and cheaper).

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SilenceInside · 09/04/2025 15:19

That’s my understanding of these tablets, that the bit they hope will work is the delivery method. They want the oils contained in the capsule to be distributed in the colon, not digested in the stomach. That’s because there have been previous studies where these oils have been directly introduced into the colon and shown to produce satiety effects similar to those that are produced naturally or mimicked by Mounjaro/Wegovy etc.

The patent talks about proposed research trials, rather than completed ones. They haven’t published their results anywhere as yet, which means they are simply claims at the moment. The claim is that people who took these tablets reduced the amount they ate by 13 or 18% - I’ve seen both figures mentioned (without any reference of course). Which is interesting, but may not reduce an over eater’s calories enough to produce actual weight loss.

dogsbreakfast · 09/04/2025 15:39

Thank you SilenceInside. I will watch the Elcella socials and reviews for more hard evidence, but meanwhile am hanging on to my hard-earned £s a little while longer.

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JunoRoma · 09/04/2025 16:18

dogsbreakfast · 09/04/2025 15:06

Sorry, earlier link shows only 1 page. This is the whole patent and pages 10 and 11 outline the trials.
worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search/family/058428307/publication/EP3429625A1?q=EP3429625

Thank you for sharing. I see the graphs but it doesn't mention the sample size.

IReallyNeedThisToWork · 09/04/2025 17:19

Surely that works out more expensive than mounjaro?? (Which you will have to prise out of my cold dead hands when the time comes I’m afraid!!)

dogsbreakfast · 09/04/2025 18:23

Yes, real people info is limited so I will be hanging on until other, wealthier canaries pioneers, have tried it with obvious success.
IReallyNeedThisToWork 😁yes, me too, unless I can find a cheaper, less needle-ey alternative to maintain this miraculous transformation. MJ works out very cost-effective on my current 1.25mg maintenance dose so no complaints at all really. Not taking synthetic hormones was part of the Elcella attraction but only if it works.

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tilypu · 13/04/2025 06:48

dogsbreakfast · 09/04/2025 15:13

The difficulty with eating the three ingredients separately seems to be the acidity in our stomach invalidates the relevant magic bits before they reach the hind gut / large intestine where the satiety signal is sent to the brain. These pills, if I have read correctly (not a guarantee!), have a coating which can carry the magic bits to the right place before they are destroyed by stomach acid. Could be total blx but I so want it to be true (and cheaper).

Edited

It's possible to buy empty enteric capsules (which basically are the ones that don't dissolve in the stomach).

If it works, there's no way that others won't create something similar much, much cheaper. I'm pretty sure it's impossible to patent a mix of three easily accessible ingredients.

dogsbreakfast · 17/04/2025 12:15

tilypu · 13/04/2025 06:48

It's possible to buy empty enteric capsules (which basically are the ones that don't dissolve in the stomach).

If it works, there's no way that others won't create something similar much, much cheaper. I'm pretty sure it's impossible to patent a mix of three easily accessible ingredients.

A European Patent was granted in 2023 so something was 'novel', unsure what as that would need more concentration on the patent document than my span can reach.
Meanwhile Lilly have announced a pill, Orforglipron, which should be ready for market in 2026. Trials at phase III with licence being sought for obesity and T2D treatment. Hopefully less than £500 a pop.

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Thomasina79 · 08/06/2025 21:06

My view, for what it’s worth, if something seems too good to be true then it probably is! Let’s wait and see. My credit card stays firmly in its place for now. I have been conned too many times!

ThatCosyScroller · 12/06/2025 16:51

My friend told me about this today having spoken to someone who has actually taken it and lost loads of weight. Seeing that she’s spoken directly to someone who used it with success, I am going to give it a go. Will update in a month or so.

catsandkid · 23/06/2025 14:12

I know this is a bit of an old thread now, but did anyone start this?

I'm giving it a go and have ordered a 4-week supply. I've been slowly losing weight but have properly plateaued for 2 months now and need a helping hand to get my mind back in the game again.

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Mastermixy · 14/09/2025 09:25

Those that took it, any results?

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 14/09/2025 09:27

Did nothing for me. I couldn’t even tell l’d taken it.

It was nothing like a weight loss jab.

artant · 14/09/2025 15:45

I’m using it and it seems to be helping: I’m down about 7.5kg in three months. I’ve been eating a healthy diet but not counting calories of tracking anything. Crucially for me, I haven’t been tempted to snack.

I’m happy to lose weight slowly and if I can do it in a way that means not having to think too much about what I can eat then so much the better.

Fluffypiece · 23/01/2026 12:31

ThatCosyScroller · 12/06/2025 16:51

My friend told me about this today having spoken to someone who has actually taken it and lost loads of weight. Seeing that she’s spoken directly to someone who used it with success, I am going to give it a go. Will update in a month or so.

Hi did you try it in the end @ThatCosyScroller ?

HeartyBlueRobin · 23/01/2026 15:06

There was an article in the Daily Mail a week or so ago. She didn't seem to lose many pounds. I don't think it can compare to the injections just yet.

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