“Food Noise” by Dr Jack Mosley

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I’m not sure if anyone has seen this but there’s a book coming out at the end of April called “Food Noise” but it seems to be about weight loss injections, how they work and the best foods etc to eat whilst on them. Probably a very brief, simplistic description of the book but I’m ordering it on kindle to see if it helps at all.

I can see there being an avalanche on weight loss jags coming after this one.

Wow, that family knows how to make money! I am slightly struggling to understand how there is a whole book in this, particularly one that costs £24.99. Anyhow, I should probably keep my cynical opinions to myself. Having taken MJ myself, I would have said that the food guidance could be summarised fairly simply, as eat good quality protein, whilst keeping carbs and fat low and be in a calorie deficit, so you can lose weight. Clearly, I am not going to sell a book out of that! 😂

Yeah I’m not sure what experience Dr Jack who is in his 20s or early 30s, fairly fresh out of medical school, working as a trainee GP and never had a weight problem, can really offer us here. He is basically trading on his dad’s name and will have little to no experience of prescribing or supervising patients on this medication. I’d much rather listen to an obesity specialist or someone from the US with a few decades of working with these drugs.

Oh dear, you’re all making me question now if the book will even be worth buying. I’m going to cancel my kindle pre-order and wait to see what the reviews are like.

Yeah your £25 can definitely be spent elsewhere. There’s lots of podcasts and information by actual experts out there for free. He’s nicked the term food noise from WLI users. GPs don’t even routinely prescribe WLIs and he’s a trainee at that. Sounds like a grift.

Ridiculous band wagon jumping.

Hmm, talk about fortuitous timing … 🤔

In what way? I've seen a few things about the book online, I dont know if I'd buy it but of course people will write books about popular topics, isn't that kind of the point?

I’ve also preordered it OP. Yes he’s probably been offered a book deal because of his dad - and his mum who I really rate as an author too - but the inside preview on Amazon looks really interesting at a time when there’s not much else out there.

I’ve preordered the physical copy as I’m pretty sure half my office will want to borrow it! I’m sure I only paid £16.

That’s what I thought. Like how frozen food companies brought our ‘air fryer chips’.

On Amazon there is a short video clip saying the book covers his concerns on muscle loss, malnutrition while on injections and changing how we eat so we don’t regain.

Doesn’t sound like anything earth shattering that we don’t already know, but will be interested in the reviews and what new information readers feel they have learned from the book rather than it being a regurgitation of what we already know.

A young man loses his Dad in horrible circumstances, that father dedicated the latter years of his life obsessed with making a difference to how we think about obesity, diet and type 2 diabetes. His son picks up the baton. Can't see what is wrong here.

I'm buying it.

Equally, there's a vast population of people not on Mumsnet. This book might be useful for millions of people who have largely been going it alone in terms of support.

It's great if you think you know everything there is to know about GLP1 injections and diets, muscle loss while on them but there will be more people than there are here who are completely clueless but thinking about taking the 'skinny jab'. Maybe you don't need the book but your next door neighbour does sort of thing. It's very clear there are a lot of people who don't understand how they work from the levels of hate directed at the drugs from social media.

I genuinely think it's great. The more information in all different formats, the more research and discussion, then the safer these medications become for all and the more attitudes change towards people on them.

Bring it on! Roll out a mass pouring of books - because I want to get to a place where GLP injections become more tailored, more affordable for all, and with fewer side effects. So having the right people in the room discussing these meds from all different angles is absolutely key to securing a cultural change.

Michael Mosley was an inspiration, taking his qualifications, decades of experience and his own lived experience to produce a personal and unique offering.

Everyone can sympathise with Jack Mosley and the tragic way he lost his dad. That does not equate to the, in your words, "young man" having the knowledge, experience and ability to "pick up the baton" so early in his medical career.

I do hope it goes well for him, but will wait for the reviews to come out. I sincerely hope he doesn't publish just another one of the many forgettable GLP1 books that have been churned out to jump on the band wagon, heavily playing on and potentially tarnishing his dads legacy. Only time will tell.

It also doesn't mean that it doesn't. Given thefact he's grown up in a household entirely dedicated to weight loss and reversing type 2 diabetes there's a much greater chance he does infact know what he's talking about compared to someone who hasn't had a life long exposure to the topic and hasn't been to medical school.

I just think the attitude of - because this was his parents career he can only be riding off their coat tails/too young to know what he's talking about - stinks.

Huge difference between stinking attitude and a respectful difference of opinion.

What does stink is making it personal. Enjoy your book.

I didn't call you out personally. Least we forget - you tagged me - you made it personal. You took my post that wasn't aimed at anyone specifically, and you tagged me to patronisingly reply and say I was wrong. Not me.

You could have written your post with your own opinion not aimed at anyone specifically. But you didn't, you came at me for my opinion.

Pot calling kettle. Don't dish it out, if you can't take it back.

I read his article in the daily mail. I am not convinced that he has done anything resembling the research necessary to be qualified to flog this book. Essentially he is advocating users to follow his dad’s Fast 800 diet while on the GLP1, which gives about 800-1000 calories a day. No reasoning for why such a low amount is advocated as surely you don’t need to go into ketosis on these drugs. Research seems to suggest that actually fasting or intermittent fasting isn’t always the best when taking these meds due to risks of getting too low blood sugar. Then apparently you should follow the 5:2 diet presumably relying on the appetite suppressing powers of the drugs to stick to it. Again, not sure this reflects a thorough understanding of obesity and its impacts on the body and the need for long term maintenance that is sustainable.
I am not sure how such a low calorie diet helps preserve muscle mass and it is very hard to get sufficient protein on these diets. And what a happy coincidence that the best regimen for these injections happens to be one in which Dr Jack has a vested interest. Essentially it’s just a repackaging of his family’s existing diets plus the injections. ££££

Tbf MM never practiced as a doctor and jumped on the bandwagon with the 5:2 diet which existed long before he marketed it and sold books about it. He had no decades of experience other than as a journalist but he was good at spinning it so that he looked like an expert.

MM’s death wasn’t a tragedy, it was a catastrophic error in judgment on his part and I don’t know why he is treated like a saint, nor why his work means his son is qualified to write a book.